Speaking as a dealer, receiving a 10% tip on a huge jackpot would put me on Cloud 9. 3-5% feels like a nice number and I'd be plenty thrilled to receive that much. And it's right around in line with what I would tip if I was the player.

BBJ money is simply double-tipped money. You probably already tipped on all those pots you won that contributed a dollar to the BBJ fund over the past 3 months.

Ours is 200K right now so $60K to the winner and I'm struggling to think of good reasons to give more than 2% - $1200.

What you tip on a BBJ should depend on how many hands the dealer loses during the down. Of course the dealer did nothing special during that hand, but it also wouldn't be fair to the dealer to be penalized due to your good fortune.

If you have a simple high hand payout of $500 or $100 and the dealer loses maybe 5 mins (maybe 2-5 hands), toss him a redbird or two to make up for those hands he lost on account of your jackpot (plus a little more just for the hell of it).

If you hit the big end of a $500k'er for ~$200k and it takes an hour to pay you out, tip the dealer for the 15-30 hands he would have gotten out plus a little more. So maybe $50 or $75 if you're feeling really generous.

I hadn't thought about the fact that the BBJ is double-tipped money like BradleyT said, but that's a good point.

I'm pretty sure I'm reading you wrong, but are you saying that you would tip $75 total if you won $200k?

If so, Please please pleeeease be my dealer when it hits!

Guy is facing an all in bet for 200$ on the turn, throws dealer 50$ off his stack and then calls. Can you do this/would you take this tip or ask player to wait until hand is over?

I don't come to this thread often, but that's the nicest thing I've ever read in here.

Good luck, hope you hit one someday because you would certainly make her day, and I guarantee you any money you give her would be appreciated more than you could imagine.

Not unless he has $250+ in his stack. I'd call the floor on that one.

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If he still covers the $200 bet sure I take it.

If you're saying it leaves him with $150 to call?
I say "Thanks for the thought but this has to be part of your call.".

rapini you've espoused this "tip based on how many hands the dealer lost" and frankly it doesn't make any sense

if you go to a restaurant and order steaks and a bottle of wine and rack up a $400 bill, but the server only spends 4 minutes at your table, do you really only tip $3? do you realize that this is not how tipping works and nobody else does it this way?

tipping isn't legally mandatory but it's a social obligation. pretty much every person on planet earth (USA only country that matters ldo) agrees you tip a % of the money involved, capped at a certain $$ amount (similar to how rake works!). tipping $50 on a bbj hit is just bucking a social trend without any actual logic accompanying it, and basically saying **** you to the dealer

He did back it up with logic - he's compensating for the number of hands the dealer missed. It's just that his logic is in conflict with your logic. I'm on your side though - I'm sure you tipped a few grand when you hit the BBJ a month ago, I would've done the same.

So, your hypothetical waiter serves 100 tables a night. You think $300 a night is below par?

Poker dealer :: waiter comparisons are usually off base and yours is even more so.

A poker dealer might deal a huge BBJ once every two years. We are not talking about tipping on the overwhelming majority of hands. If Rapini wins the big end, the dealer is not going to go hungry.

Exactly how does "tipping work" when it happens this infrequently?

Winning a BBJ is not found money. Chances are the player paid almost every penny he gets back in BBJ rake.

BBJ at my regular room is $310k, 40/20/40 split. So $124k to the loser, $62 to the winner, and $15.5k for a table share at a full table.

Table share I'm probably tipping the dealer $50-75, winning hand $125ish, losing hand $200ish. All the dealers in the casino chop tips, so I'm not too thrilled with handing over a big tip. If it was a dealer that I really liked and was good for the game, he'd be invited to the after win celebration at the canadian ballet, dances on my dime.

I'd be much more likely to tip the guys that sell me burritos at 4am $100 rather than spew it at the casino.

The player also profited from playing in a casino that offers a BBJ due to winning bigger pots against worse players.

If I go to a restaurant at which I pay $400 for a meal, I know in advance all costs associated with that, including the tip. I can choose to stay home if I don't want to tip appropriately. Same goes for poker rooms in general; if you don't want to tip dealers for dealing, cool; you can stay home. Hitting a BBJ is not a choice and therefore not the same thing.

I do not agree that a dealer deserves a percentage of a BBJ as a tip. It's a hand like any other. But I also don't think that a dealer should be penalized for dealing a BBJ. And my tip is saying "thank you," not "**** you." Not sure how you could get that confused.

I'm curious what you consider an "approriate" tip at a restuarant...feel free to use your $400 meal as an example.
Really??? It's a "hand just like any other"??? That's a peculiar train of thought.

LOL...the dealer did nothing special during the hand...that's funny. You obviously are not taking into consideration all the variables a dealer must orchestrate and execute, with 100% accuracy, in order for you to ultimately enjoy your "good fortune."

Everyone is free to tip what they like, but this is the worst argument for tipping a percentage I've heard yet. What exactly did the dealer do that was special?

not **** up the hand. do you also only tip waiters when they do something extraordinary or do you, like everybody else, tip them when they give standard, good service?

you chose to play in a room with a bbj and more specifically to play at a table in that room that has it

Not ****ing up the hand is standard service, (if they want tips and keep the job), just like not tossing a plate of food on the table and having sauce splash on the customer is standard expected service at a restaurant.

Also, do we know this is a BBJ hand (i.e., qualifier on board and lots of jamming)? If so, I'd imagine the dealer going very slowly to ensure no mistakes are made (I'm assuming... I don't play BBJ's), so you have a point there, but yet again, this still falls under standard service by a dealer. I'd really expect a dealer to be extra careful in a possible BBJ hand for self-serving reasons, so not ****ing up the hand is nothing special at all.

Just to clarify, I'm not arguing against tipping percentages, but this line of reasoning for doing so is not very sound. Not ****ing up a hand so badly that the casino would void a legit jackpot is the minimum level of service expected by a dealer, no?

What the dealer does that many people (such as yourself) don't consider anything "special", is ensure that all casino rules and procedures, as well as state gaming regulations are adhered to...every single hand. In addition to the actual running of the game, there are things like no cell phones/electronic devices on table, no talking about BBJ during a hand, etc. among others. The majority of things a good dealer does to ensure the integrity of a game go unnoticed by most players (this is a good thing.) And while I will agree it's not rocket science, I would challenge any poker player to sit in the box and actually BE a poker dealer before they pass judgement.

And don't forget that the dealer CUT the cards just perfectly for a BBJ...even one card more or less and no BBJ

It's funny how the pendulum in this thread swings both ways. Sometimes the people in favor of huge tips get the heat. Now it's Rapini getting heat for alleged low tipping, when he strikes me as one of the most moderate position takers in the thread.

As for the rest of your post, I addressed all of that in the post above yours. This deck cut nonsense, I hope, is some attempt at humor? I only ask because this has legitimately been argued in this thread before, that randomness should be rewarded lavishly as if it weren't random.

Well they didn't cut it perfectly the previous 200,000 hands that weren't BBJ qualifiers. At the end of the day they should be more concerned with providing good service over those 199,999 non-BBJ hands than the 1 BBJ hand. They'll make far more money being fast and friendly all the time.

At 250 hands per day it'll take them years on average before dealing a BBJ (depending on rules). So over a 3 year span whether they make $100 or $2000 that day isn't a big difference on their total salary.

So you're saying that it's very likely that a player that hits a BBJ and takes home $60k has likely won 60,000 pots that qualified to have a BBJ drop taken out?

I'm going to say that less than 1% of players in any given room could say this is true for them even if you cut that number in half to $30k.