Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Tipping CONTAINMENT thread.

04-30-2013 , 02:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bolt2112
Ditto that. The tip in itself is appreciated. And the dealer's verbal "thanks", along with a tap on the tray, is an obligation. No more niceties required by either side after that.

If a player leaves a particularly big tip on a large pot, I'll thank him in the usual manner, and will try to make eye contact one last time as I'm leaving the table to show another gesture of appreciation (a subtle nod in his direction). That he went above the norm for tipping and that I'm grateful.
This is good to know, thanks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyLikeABird
Feels right tbh. Though it has been a very long time since I have won a pot like that. Wasn't sure what the more opinionated dealers thought about the situation. I started to tip 2, thought it was cheap, and went 7 instead, may still be for all I know
I think it's good you raised it. If it's not 1/2 it still sounds kinda low, but it also depends on where you are. If I was in the UK I wouldn't tip more than that because the dealers I know there have okay salaries, pool their tips, and I'm really one of the few/only people I see tip there. In Vegas I'll usually not tip for small, pre-flop steal type pots, about a BB for medium pots, and 3-5 BB for pots in the 125-400 BB range... unless I really dislike the dealer. That's just me though, I think it's about on par with your average US tourist and a bit more than most of the Vegas regs I know.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
04-30-2013 , 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Please tell me where you have seen this so I can pack up all my stuff and move.

IMO - Anything between $0 and $5 is what I'd expect in the box. Even though I'm a dealer, and I don't believe the size of the pot should be a huge factor in tip size. Meaning if I ever dealt 25/50nl, I would never expect a red or green every hand just cause it was a bigger game.

Maybe I'm a below average tipper, but I max my tips out at $5 and it takes a pretty big pot to make me tip that.

I've dealt $25/50 NL and $2 is the most common tip I've seen on that table, followed by a $1 tip as the 2nd most common amount. There are players who don't tip at all at $25/50 (happily for me, there aren't too many of those players at that table). The biggest tip I've ever received (excluding jackpots) was at a $25/50 table. It was a 3 way all-in (all 3 stacks were comparable) and the winner tripled up when I pushed him around $30K.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-01-2013 , 05:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Please tell me where you have seen this so I can pack up all my stuff and move.

IMO - Anything between $0 and $5 is what I'd expect in the box. Even though I'm a dealer, and I don't believe the size of the pot should be a huge factor in tip size. Meaning if I ever dealt 25/50nl, I would never expect a red or green every hand just cause it was a bigger game.

Maybe I'm a below average tipper, but I max my tips out at $5 and it takes a pretty big pot to make me tip that.
That's YOU. He said HE could envision it. He didn't say YOU should be looking to tip $50 or $100, nor should the dealer expect it.

I'm pretty sure even someone dealing $25/$50 would be thrilled with less than a red per hand. Even if it were $4/per hand on average, you're talking $120 hourly, which is $720 if you're in the box for 6 hours of an 8 hour shift. Pretty hefty penny.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-01-2013 , 06:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
That's YOU. He said HE could envision it. He didn't say YOU should be looking to tip $50 or $100, nor should the dealer expect it.

I'm pretty sure even someone dealing $25/$50 would be thrilled with less than a red per hand. Even if it were $4/per hand on average, you're talking $120 hourly, which is $720 if you're in the box for 6 hours of an 8 hour shift. Pretty hefty penny.

Nobody is expecting 4 dollars per hand. The example brought up was a 700 bb pot. The stakes were never given. I used 2-5 nlhe in my original response. A dealer might push a 700 bb put once or twice in a year so we're talking about an unusual circumstance.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-01-2013 , 06:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
That's YOU. He said HE could envision it. He didn't say YOU should be looking to tip $50 or $100, nor should the dealer expect it.

I'm pretty sure even someone dealing $25/$50 would be thrilled with less than a red per hand. Even if it were $4/per hand on average, you're talking $120 hourly, which is $720 if you're in the box for 6 hours of an 8 hour shift. Pretty hefty penny.
Reading comprehension is difficult. It's ok.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-01-2013 , 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Reading comprehension is difficult. It's ok.
Clearly it is, as is getting an education, but only for one of us, and it isn't me. Please explain, without trolling and posting drivel this time, what is incorrect about my post.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-01-2013 , 07:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bolt2112
Nobody is expecting 4 dollars per hand. The example brought up was a 700 bb pot. The stakes were never given. I used 2-5 nlhe in my original response. A dealer might push a 700 bb put once or twice in a year so we're talking about an unusual circumstance.
Another brilliant response. Interestingly enough, nowhere in my post does it even come remotely close to saying that they're "expecting" $4 a hand.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-01-2013 , 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Clearly it is, as is getting an education, but only for one of us, and it isn't me. Please explain, without trolling and posting drivel this time, what is incorrect about my post.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
That's YOU. He said HE could envision it. He didn't say YOU should be looking to tip $50 or $100, nor should the dealer expect it.

How exactly did it sound like my post said that I should be tipping $50-$100 and/or the dealer should expect $50-$100. I made a joke. I'd love to deal at a place where a $50-$100 tip isn't uncommon.

I'm pretty sure even someone dealing $25/$50 would be thrilled with less than a red per hand.

Okie dokie. Again, not sure how my post got this reaction from you. I was just making a point that I don't believe pot size shouldn't affect your tip that much to the point that I wouldn't expect more just because I'm dealing a bigger game.


Even if it were $4/per hand on average, you're talking $120 hourly, which is $720 if you're in the box for 6 hours of an 8 hour shift. Pretty hefty penny.
And I'm also not sure where that random $4/hand average came from.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-01-2013 , 09:42 PM
And 700bb pots also tend to take a wee bit longer, the huge pots I've dealt are generally closer to five minutes than two. Players are thinking through multiple major decisions each, and it takes time
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-01-2013 , 11:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Another brilliant response. Interestingly enough, nowhere in my post does it even come remotely close to saying that they're "expecting" $4 a hand.
I re-read your post and I conclude that you came at least *remotely close* to saying that they're expecting $4 a hand. If that's not what you were saying, then why did you bring up $4 a hand in the first place, and how that translates into an hourly and daily salary?
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-02-2013 , 05:33 AM
He was using hyperbole to show how ridiculous it would be for a dealer to expect $4/hand, that's all. I'm not sure what's hard to understand about that.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-02-2013 , 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
He was using hyperbole to show how ridiculous it would be for a dealer to expect $4/hand, that's all. I'm not sure what's hard to understand about that.
He pulled $4/hand out of thin air. Nobody had even said anything remotely close to a dealer expecting that much.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-02-2013 , 09:44 PM
I wish I got $4 a hand ohh sweet retirement in a year or two. Oh sorry only read $4 a hand.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-02-2013 , 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
He was using hyperbole to show how ridiculous it would be for a dealer to expect $4/hand, that's all. I'm not sure what's hard to understand about that.
Bingo. Thank you.

Just put a random high number out there, below the repeatedly mentioned figure of a redbird, to illustrate just how much $4 a hand would work out to. I'm sure most dealers in any game would be very pleased with an average of anything over $1 per hand, which would end up being $32, $35 an hour.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-02-2013 , 11:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Bingo. Thank you.

Just put a random high number out there, below the repeatedly mentioned figure of a redbird, to illustrate just how much $4 a hand would work out to. I'm sure most dealers in any game would be very pleased with an average of anything over $1 per hand, which would end up being $32, $35 an hour.
Ok. Cool. Now please show me who said that dealers would ever expect $5/hand.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-03-2013 , 01:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Ok. Cool. Now please show me who said that dealers would ever expect $5/hand.
Pretty much any post where a dealer talks about pushing anything 4-figs or larger pot.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-03-2013 , 01:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirRawrsALot
Ok. Cool. Now please show me who said that dealers would ever expect $5/hand.
Jesus, dude. He's just putting things in perspective for anyone that thinks dealers expect anything more than a dollar a pot so the non-dealers reading this can have a frame of reference as to what tips ultimately amount to. You can often find posts in this thread where people talk about what dealers expect, and you can find plenty of people here looking to see what they "should" be tipping. He's just adding information.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-21-2013 , 11:57 AM
i tip about a $1 or 2 a hand but obviously if its a larger pot ill tip more. But when im getting ready to leave and say my stack is around $759. Ill take the $9 and give it to the dealer.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-21-2013 , 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tskarzyn
Fortunately for him, most waitresses have probably never seen his movies =) In all seriousness, the thread is ridiculous because people can tip whatever they want and the market will adjust accordingly.
Many of the arguments are ridiculous.

What is serious is that players new to casino poker (or new to venues where tipping is the norm) want some guidelines.

BBJ: Even though they will probably never win even a table share, what is a reasonable range? Percentage? Flat amount? Percentage up to a flat amount? Relying on what Staff tells you is "standard" is asking to overtip and sitting next to Mr Pink will influence you the opposite direction.

Tournaments: More likely to happen. Tip on net or gross? Dealer addon? Staff tips taken out of prize pool?

Cash game: Every day questions. Same every pot? Based on pot size? Based on time hand took?

A reasonable discussion gives a new player a range of opinions and arguments as to how much to tip in each situation. Then it is up to him. At least he has a "roadmap"

Then there are the 90% of discussions in this thread that degenerate into name calling.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-21-2013 , 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
Many of the arguments are ridiculous.

What is serious is that players new to casino poker (or new to venues where tipping is the norm) want some guidelines.

BBJ: Even though they will probably never win even a table share, what is a reasonable range? Percentage? Flat amount? Percentage up to a flat amount? Relying on what Staff tells you is "standard" is asking to overtip and sitting next to Mr Pink will influence you the opposite direction.

Tournaments: More likely to happen. Tip on net or gross? Dealer addon? Staff tips taken out of prize pool?

Cash game: Every day questions. Same every pot? Based on pot size? Based on time hand took?

A reasonable discussion gives a new player a range of opinions and arguments as to how much to tip in each situation. Then it is up to him. At least he has a "roadmap"

Then there are the 90% of discussions in this thread that degenerate into name calling.
Good point... most people don't want to give an overly stingy or generous tip and some general guidelines will help them avoid doing so.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-21-2013 , 04:12 PM
Pot - $15 = no tip
Pot $16-100 =$1
Pot $100-200 =$2-3 dollars
Pot $200- 600 = $5
Pot $601-1000 = $6-7 dollars
Pot $1000-1500 = = $8-10
This is for 1/2 and 2/5

Sent from my SGH-T999 using 2+2 Forums
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-21-2013 , 04:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by luvthisgame
Pot - $15 = no tip
Pot $16-100 =$1
Pot $100-200 =$2-3 dollars
Pot $200- 600 = $5
Pot $601-1000 = $6-7 dollars
Pot $1000-1500 = = $8-10
This is for 1/2 and 2/5

Sent from my SGH-T999 using 2+2 Forums
If televised poker is any indication, that is more than the guys at nosebleed stakes tip.
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-21-2013 , 09:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tskarzyn
If televised poker is any indication, that is more than the guys at nosebleed stakes tip.
Games at that level usually have a "flat rate guaranteed tip"... dealer is guaranteed usually $25/down (taken like a time rake out of the first pot over $x)

any additional tipping is above and beyond..
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-21-2013 , 11:22 PM
Curious about the thoughts on tipping after winning 'random' drawings.

A casino rewards it's regulars with a drawing, winners winning $x. Some seemed to seek out those that 'picked' them as winners, others tipped the floor/cage/current seated dealer, some didn't tip at all. Likely comes out of 'promotional' dollars (aka bad beat jackpot), but I can't confirm that. Does it matter where the money comes from? Who does the picking?
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote
05-22-2013 , 08:05 AM
Who would you tip for a random drawing and, more importantly, why?
Tipping CONTAINMENT thread. Quote

      
m