I would immediately inform him that ALL future tips that WERE his are no longer going to be considered for that particular category. Then I might just talk to the floor about it.

Really not relevant. Once he gets those tips, it's his life, he can spend them how he wishes.

There are any number of things that someone in any profession could be doing to irresponsibly waste their salary, but we aren't in the habit of holding it against them. Tip he based on performance, let him handle the gambling and it's consequences.

Tipping is optional if you feel you can put the money to better use than him then by all means keep it.

brainbounce, i think you misunderstood:
The dealer pushed a pot and was tipped by a player.
Chip runner arrived and the dealer tipped the runner a dollar.
Player who had tipped dealer a dollar is upset because the dealer have the tip the player gave him, to the chip runner.

Someone needs to explain the concept of fungibility to the player.

Tipping after you win a pot is just the wrong way to go about tipping. Unfortunately it's the norm, so everyone just sticks to that system for the most part. In an ideal world, no one would tip the dealer until the end of their down. When they're about to leave everyone would throw in what they think that dealer deserved for his or her service that down.

The way it's set up now it's more like you're tipping the auto shuffler instead of the dealer.

As a dealer, Surprisingly I agree with you. In a perfect world all nine players would be objective and tip me based on the service I gave them as I leave them.

Unfortunately we do not live in a perfect world, and I will be getting nothing from the players who got killed during my down, and I will be lucky to get a few bucks from those who won.

In my perfect world at a 9 handed table if everybody tossed me $3 when I sat down or left the table, I would love my life. can't ask for much more than that

I did indeed misunderstand.

When I read the post, I was not aware that a dealer sometimes tipped the chip runner. Now that I see it from this angle, it makes perfect sense. The player that gave that tip should not care what happens with it in a perfect world. We all know that is never going to happen, though.

If I received money from someone with specific instructions as to how it was to be used, I might not accept it, depending on the circumstances. A tip is the same as a gift. All that is usually required is a thank you after you receive it. You could burn it, or wipe your butt, but it is probably not a good idea to do either of those things in front of the giver.

$54/hr? You deal cards for a living - society doesn't value your skill set that much.

He said he'd love his life, he didn't say that was the bare minimum he'd want to get up in the morning.

In my perfect world at a 9 handed table if everybody except me tossed the dealer $3 a down, I wouldn't get any grief for making the dealers' world less than perfect.

****, if 6 of the 9 did it I would still be happy

As a dealer I had to comment on this. I am never afraid to tell a player he is out of line when he is, and I work very hard to maintain the integrity of the game. But in my opinion, usually the players who want rules enforced, and are playing for a living do not tip....Its really sad, like how can you win a pot that is 2k and not tip a $1 because it will affect your profits in the long run? Especially if this dealer is fast, accurate, friendly, and controls the table? It is just absurd. I admit good tips usually comes from bad players, but when they are breaking the rules there are ways to tell them to stop without being an ass, and they will still tip you. I just think it is sad that people do not tip because it hurts their profits, when they usually are a long run loser anyway. The dealer is trying to make a living. It is just disgusting....

That's why I'd rather tip based on dealer performance, or hands per hour, than based on hand size. The size of the pot has nothing to do with the dealer.

Dealer A announces out loud that a player never tips

Player then throws dealer 2 dollars

thoughts on situation?

I would assume the dealer is joking and the player is actually a very generous tipper

Fire dealer.

Agree with the above, this is probably a situation where the two know each other and are kidding around.

If not, there's really no problem, since the player that the statement was about obviously didn't care.

My kind of dealer. Point is, how many and how much individuals tip can be near irrelevant. Overall the tips still come. Aside from the standard fast, friendly, and efficient as reasons to tip, this is one of the aspects I admire most in a dealer that I weigh heavily in my tipping decisions. Graciousness for the tips received without sweating non / small tips.

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Unacceptable. Shift Boss should be made aware of it. Written warning to start the paper trail so they can be fired if it continues.
It not a joking matter.

Though it might have been the two of them just joking around, it seems like it could have been a conceived plan to rub it in to the other guy at the table who doesn't tip. Such a poor attempt to induce tips from a non tipper could backfire. If I was tipping this dealer all along, I would no longer tip if he displayed such a stunt.

At my local casinos, fuluck's "perfect world" would represent a substantial pay cut for our dealers. It would be a disaster.

I guess these things vary quite a bit by room and region. Our guys are well above $30/down in tips, far above.

I don't think it was a joke. I heard something along the lines of "even though I've shipped like 2 pots to you" to the player. The player seemed kinda uncomfortable and threw him a 2 dollar toke.

This is so funny because it's so true. Virtually all of us automatically toss $1/pot, and grow it based on bigger pots. Even though I know it's not right, I still find myself tossing big tips to horrible dealers based on big pots, even though I know it's wrong. Earlier in this thread, I mentioned the guy who doesn't say "thank you" for redbirds. Well, the other day I found myself tossing one to him based on a really nice pot, grrrrrrrrr. Of course, no "thank you." I feel so stupid, but it's hard to stop. We're trapped in this utterly stupid convention.

We really are "tipping the auto shuffler."

Ok, even worse. Blatantly pressuring the guy to tip. Same backfire effect, less tips from those like myself.