You could look at it as useful feedback. Instead of adamantly disagreeing, you could accept that 'nitpickers' don't like certain things. Even if most players consider certain things inconsequential as you might, if they are to tip, they will tip regardless. Your 'nitpickers' will be more selective in what they consider tip-worthy. Why miss out on potential tips from 'nitpickers'?

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never really understand why service providing workers complain instead of trying to improve no matter what...Complaining isn't not gonna get you more tips, it'll only get more ppl upset your work ethic and attitude.

No, it's not an assumption, it's an observation based on facts that are quite clear in this thread and other B+M threads. There are people posting here who virtually never post anything on this site other than discussing rules violations and etiquette. There are also people who in every one of these types of threads, take a stance that is ridiculously harsh and overreactive towards casino personnel.

I'd buy your 2nd paragraph if people didn't become "bothered" and "take action on it" at such a ridiculously high rate over such extremely minor things constantly.

You keep accusing me/others of "bias" (a word you clearly do not understand the meaning of) and then here you tell me that I can use comments here as "feedback". I can't imagine why, but it appears you are under the impression that I am a dealer or casino poker employee. I'm not. Why do you keep speaking like you think this is the case?

As far as nitpickers, I get that some people are easy going and like to enjoy life, and others sweat the small stuff, but it's way overboard in this forum. Things that no one outside of this site would ever care about end up ruining 2p2'ers days. I'll never get it. Shouldn't people claiming all the time to be pros beating medium to high stakes be more headstrong than this, and more focused on strategical elements of the game?

I'm not surprised a search didn't turn up anything, because, while this does happen from time to time, it usually doesn't happen at the level you're describing. You might see people once in awhile throw the dealer a $1 on the flop and ask "Jimmy, get me there" etc, but that's about it. The situation you described is pretty unique, you might never see it again.

As long as it wasn't interfering time-wise or becoming confusing to people as far as what was in the pot and what wasn't, it'd be fine.

You've observed some things, and you've formed an opinion. Noted. But unless you're also a telepath, you're making assumptions about their motivations.

are there people ITT who don't tip at all?

I ask because I'm thinking of stopping completely and would like to hear how players/dealers have reacted.

Depends on your reasoning for stopping. Details?

I'm curious to know how players and dealers react to players who don't tip at all. I don't think I'd stop completely but I feel like I should cut down. I usually tip like 1$ per 30$+ pot I win and 2-3$ for anything 200$+ regardless of how good/bad the dealer is.

As a player, I find it offputting when another player doesn't tip at all, but I don't say anything about it. I do wonder why the guy isn't tipping: is he just cheap or does he have a prior history with this dealer?

I've seen dealers' reactions run the gamut from no reaction whatsoever to one I saw the other day: the dealer glared at the player and while pitching the cards fired them hard and fast all over the place in the vicinity of the player, like into chip stacks, into the player's hands, into the table rail, etc. I chuckled to myself because the player either genuinely wasn't picking up on the dealer's annoyance/anger or had such a good poker face that it seemed like he was completely oblivious. I can't imagine that made the dealer any happier.

But I'd say the vast majority of dealers I've seen act professionally, i.e., no reaction, because they know that the non-tippers even out in the long run with the better tippers.

Why not continue your tipping with good dealers and
reduce tips when a dealer is slow, makes mistakes, has a bad attitude?

At that point the dealer would have to deal with a second non-tipper because I would not tip such an unprofessional worker.

And what would you do if said dealers started short pitching your cards and short pushing your pots? And after you complained to supervisor and nothing happened?

Just curious, I see these type things where I play.

Muck my cards and place my bets so the idiot has to reach for them. Take my sweet time making obvious decisions. If dealers want to play the Jerk Game, I can be just as much a jerk.

I don't complain to supervisors who I know won't do anything, which is most of them.

Whats funny is the leeway poker dealers get sometimes from management but if that was on a BJ table and dealers were doing that, they would no doubt be quickly dealt with or fired.

Blackjack player gets mad and leaves, the house loses money.

Poker player gets mad and leaves, they just call the next name on the list.

I can tell you that I made a declaration ITT that I would stop tipping and the reactions (ITT) were quite bad.

I stated my reasons for stopping: Dealers ITT claiming that smaller than expected tips weren't good enough and implying certain tips to be insults.

I never really got to test my stop tipping policy in the field as I caved and tipped about 1.5 hrs into my next session. I did settle on tipping less though. While I used to tip similarly to your example, I have since been tipping at a rate of about a quarter to a third of what I once did. Ultimately, I feel my own reasons outweigh any reasons another player or dealer might give. So just from one player's perspective, I can tell you I found comfort in that, and would suggest to anyone else to tip how it's comfortable for you.

I don't know why people tell other people that they don't tip. Is it like some sort of weird social rebellion thing? You're just cheap.

You might be on to something. Could be a balance to the tip for the sake of tipping conformity.

Balancing many many years of generosity.

If you scan this extensively lengthy thread, you'll see a number of people. As far as how people will react, you shouldn't care how players react, it isn't their business and they can't do anything to you. As far as dealers, I'm sure they won't like it, but there's not much they can really do either. Make your own decision as to what to do and stick with it, and don't worry about others.

I tip zero on tournament cashes, since places take out 3%-5% off the prize pool for dealers. Cash games I tip standard amts

I play in rooms where tips are shared equally among dealers (including blackjack/table dealers).

Some (poker) dealers are plain horrible, while others are truly knowledgeable. What I've begun doing is not tipping the horrible dealers, and tipping double to the good dealers. --Don't really care what bad dealers think; want to make good dealers feel better.

Fair or foul?

This is why I will never work in a room that pools tokes. I bust my ass to run a clean and efficient game for you and I have to share what I earn with those the don't give a ****.

Over my dead body

I have to put up with the same ****. I tip the good ones as normal, or a little better than normal. But I also make a point to let the good ones know, "hey that idiot you just tapped out was slow as hell, he's costing you money" hopefully they give the slow guys a KITN in the breakroom.