I'm surprised it's a low as 15 when you're getting 10 bucks a pop. They must not tip literally at all and it has to be a super-player friendly blind structure to get that low.

I wish we made $20/down in our tournaments, hell $15 would be quite a step up. Ours are $12/down pretty much every night and we do 40 minute downs instead of the standard 30. In general, SoCal has some pretty lousy tippers that's for sure, I need to move back to the East coast...

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I just realized you're talking about downs and not hourly rates. Wow.

Agreed. I think I would go back to dealing if I could make that kind of coin

Just heard about a “great” tip in Milwaukee, after one of their better dealers pushed a $133500 Bad Beat on Saturday April 6th. Dealer received about $300-450 from the entire table. Players share was about $5700 for the seven players receiving a share, losing hand took about $53200 or so, and winning hand got $40112. Winning and losing hand both stiffed dealer and the winning hand proceeded to needle and joke with the dealer about the “tip” for a week after the beat happened. It was a horrible state of affairs as some of the biggest stuffs in our room were at the table and one of our biggest nuts was already camped out on over$3000 of winning for the night and is a huge non-starter for a decent game.

In, before the regulars in this thread start commenting about how $300-$450 for 1 hand is a great night for the dealer.

If you're going to stiff the dealer for any hand, no matter the size of the pot, keep your mouth shut. I'd expect a player in my room to be given a rack and shown the door for this kind of behavior.

Haha, what's the name of your real account?

Anyway, if true, that sucks, but somehow I think we're missing some history between the dealer and the taunting player, especially since you heard about it and you're using a gimmick account.

blah blah blah

some entitled dealer made 300-450 dollars for doing absolutely nothing and probably waiting around for an hour for the bbj to be verified

lmao@these being a horrible state of affairs

i mean yea needling the guy about it when he was expecting more is in poor taste- so is expecting more money.

i love how nowhere in this cry baby post is it even mentioned whether or not the dealer is actually good, because it's just pure entitlement.

in fact considering the fact you have one post,and the tone of your post chances are you are the entitled dealer who think you did something special and deserve 5 figures for dealing.

Needling about a zero tip is bad, $400 for dealing a single hand of poker is really good. How much did they have to give the dealer, was it zero dollars? Sounds like the dealer made $400 more than the required amount.

Regarding my previous posting I have been a long time lurker and I have read over 200 pages of this thread . My account is not made up and I am a regular in the room where this took place. The dealer is one of the better ones in the room, and he is quick, efficient, and engages in banter with the best of them.

The player who stiffed him is one of the worst I have ever encountered on the felt. The guy showed up out of the blue on either March 18 or March 25 and is one of the biggest pieces of trash I have ever encountered . The guy showed up with two black eyes and was talking about how he had been assaulted in a George Webb or strip club parking lot . The guy talks about the most out of line things you can imagine and won’t stop until floor normally intervenes. We’ve had multiple incidents where this idiot has hurt good games and almost run off action that is losing $3k plus in a $1/3 game.

This crazy player for whatever reason felt it was ok to stiff the dealer and then joke about his “tip” for another week. Whatever our individual stances are on tipping, I think special circumstances like a bad beat hitting warrant special considerations, and that the recognized industry standard of 2.5-5% of a jackpot
should have been employed. At a minimum I think the dealer should have received half a player share, so at least $2500.

$2500? u must work for tips too and of course u think this because youre GREEDY. most of us work for less than $10 an hour without tips at mcd, walmarts, 7-11 etc.

sure id gave him $200 or so but $2500? forget it. at least i wouldnt stiffed him, and he will still get something from the other players besides just me.

Lol of course BigCharles comes in swinging!

I guess I should have clarified and said $2500 total from all players, not just from the winning or losing hand. This guy received $300-400 from everyone seated at the table.

Lurker who knows the real identity of sc2003. Sure, brah. Just admit you're a dealer in the room protecting your 2+2 name. No one really gives a ****.

Why do you think jackpot size should influence tip size? I mean, if the cage is having to count out $40K instead of $4K, then there's definitely more work involved, but what extra service would a dealer provide to warrant a 10x bigger tip in such a scenario?

I love the logic that the dealer should be thankful to be stiffed because he wouldn't have made that much from one hand anyway. Because the players should expect to make 45k+ off one hand, right? At least throw the man a couple hundred dollars.

Who said he should be thankful to be stiffed? If I were a dealer, I'd focus on the money I actually get instead of the money I didn't get. Seems like it'd be a no-brainer mindset for frustration-free work.

Borg nice read bro, just another entitled dealer...oh wait.

It’s the player’s money already and a net loss after taxes, admin fees, tipping, etc.

I don’t think I would ever tip more than 100 bucks on a jackpot win no matter how big it is. I’ll put that money to use for myself and my family thank you very much.

And will you then needle the dealer about not giving him a bigger tip every time you see him thereafter? No? Then you're not a complete scumbag.

The money is found money for everyone anyway, therefore since dealers work for tips, the players should all have collectively tipped a total of around a minimum of $2600, which is still only 2% and not even close to a much more generous 5%! The horrible and disruptive player who did not tip and proceeded to needle the dealer should be banned from the room! If you go to a restaurant and don't tip your waiter or waitress and then proceed to needle them upon your return to that restaurant, do you really think they're not going to spit in your food or worse?

Unfortunately, there's nothing the poker dealer can do but it's unfair if you are working for tips! Everyone is entitled to compensation in that situation. The players are entitled to spend their found money on their family or however they see fit, so why shouldn't the dealer be able to do the same? Again, it's found money for all involved and not just another poker hand!



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Either Alladin works in the room, or the dealers there are highly unprofessional and are yapping to players about what other players tip.

Lol “found money”. Yeah found money I lost a dollar at a time over 15 years having never gotten a single penny of it back. I could win the big end and still be down in bbj rake.

u do know of course all these issues could be solved if the house just didnt take a jackpot drop. the only reason casinos do is because theyre trying to get tips for the dealers. its BS jackpot drops shouldnt exist.

As much as I disagree with the entitlement that this alladin person has, I think this is a poor line to take. Promotions are to put butts in the seats, not in a hope that one dealer twice a year makes a 5K score lol.

Chuckling a bit at the insinuations that I have to be a dealer at the room, nope just a reg trying to grind in a high variance environment. Regarding how I know what people tipped, I talked to people seated at the table. I have a pretty respectful poker friendship with one of the table share recipients, a part time pro who deals in Joliet IL, and he told me he tipped $125 and also told me about the winning and losing hand making pseudo efforts to get the dealer’s phone number under the pretense of meeting him in town for a tax free tip.

The ill behaved mental case later confirmed to me that he hadn’t tipped the dealer and didn’t intend to. He told me this on 09April, three days after the BBJ hit.

Absolute nonsense, it's not 'found money' at all, it's raked off from players' winnings. It's the players money. The dealer is no more entitled to a share than a convenience store clerk is entitled to a share of a lottery win.