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11-12-2018 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
US tipping customs. It's the only reason I can think of as to why a guy would tip $5 (his usual amount) to a dealer who made several substantial errors - one of which was trying to short him out of $300.
Oh weird. I don't think I have ever played with a single person whose standard tipping amount was $5, so I certainly didn't think of that as a tipping custom.
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11-12-2018 , 05:01 AM
I obviously get it now, but put me down for one more that thought he meant "Customs" as in airport security and not being able to figure out what he was talking about until after the post.
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11-12-2018 , 11:02 AM
Hey all, just wondering if I should tip when I win a pot that I raise over limpers and get all folds before a flop. Example- at 1-2 one or two limpers, I raise pre and take down say a 5 or 7 dollar pot? Just wondering if people tip a dollar here. I’ve been tipping in these spots but wondering if I should limit to flood where we see afa flop? Thanks
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11-12-2018 , 11:30 AM
Some do and some dont.

I do if the dealer is quality and if I win more than $10 in limos. Otherwise I typically don't.
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11-12-2018 , 12:18 PM
I tip a dollar when I raise and take down just the blinds, but I have a higher threshold than most of the people I play with for tipping more than a dollar for a bigger pot, so I feel it compensates for that.

When in doubt, watch what the other players do in the same situation.
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11-12-2018 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
I tip a dollar when I raise and take down just the blinds, but I have a higher threshold than most of the people I play with for tipping more than a dollar for a bigger pot, so I feel it compensates for that.

When in doubt, watch what the other players do in the same situation.
Thanks for this. I’ll def watch to see what others do. I feel the standard where I play is a dollar a hand and maybe 2-3 if big pot. I wanna keep tipping to a min to build the br lol bc they already take a lot out of 1-2 pots. Wanna say 4 bucks if see raised pot multi-way which seems insane. I just think it’s crazy when you raise in late position and take a 3 dollar profit and give 1 buck to dealer to deal a hand that was easily shuffled from an auto dealer. Call me crazy but dealers gotta make solid money if they are getting a buck a hand I feel.
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11-12-2018 , 01:22 PM
You're crazy if you think dealers make a dollar a hand, this is especially true if they deal in southern California card rooms. Downs of ten dollars or less are very common there.

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11-12-2018 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by T1967
You're crazy if you think dealers make a dollar a hand, this is especially true if they deal in southern California card rooms. Downs of ten dollars or less are very common there.

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Everywhere except SoCal dealers are averaging over $1 per hand. SoCal they are making under $1 per hand, but their hourly wage is higher.
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11-13-2018 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spring83
Everywhere except SoCal dealers are averaging over $1 per hand. SoCal they are making under $1 per hand, but their hourly wage is higher.


Yeah isn’t their hourly wage like $15 an hour?
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11-13-2018 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FishFry1984
Yeah isn’t their hourly wage like $15 an hour?
California minimum wage is $11 ($12 in 2019)
Some cities have higher, but I don't think any SoCal cities that do have a cardroom.
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11-13-2018 , 10:55 AM
I think Dealers in my area do pretty well 'per hand' ... but they look forward to a PLO down where the pots get much bigger even though it's still 1/2. There are less hands per down for sure, but typically the tips are triple or more of a NL down.

Most Dealers get at least $10 per 1/2 NL down, but I've seen over $30 for some if the right Players are winning the pots. GL


PS .. Do the math anyway you want ... per hand ... per hour ... Although the 'work' might look easy (once mastered) there aren't many jobs where the customer microscope is more directly pointed at someone more continuously than a Dealer.

At least wait staff can escape to the kitchen and not all of their tables are staring at them at the same time!!

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11-20-2018 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by T1967
You're crazy if you think dealers make a dollar a hand, this is especially true if they deal in southern California card rooms. Downs of ten dollars or less are very common there.

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You are crazy if you believe that. It’s prolly different where you play but I see people tip a dollar a hand as the massive standard (I would say 75-90% of pots are a dollar tip). My favorite is when I see old fish tip 2-5 dollars when they buy I’m for 80 dollars at 1-2 after running it up a bit. Just throwing away money imo. I’m fine with tipping 2-3 dollars if I win a huge pot but not consistently.
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11-20-2018 , 08:07 PM
There are definitely cardrooms where dealers make way more than a dollar a hand.
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11-21-2018 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
There are definitely cardrooms where dealers make way more than a dollar a hand.
Which ones?
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11-21-2018 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
Which ones?


I’m intrigued
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11-21-2018 , 11:05 AM
Prairie meadows they make like 90k a year
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11-21-2018 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rm81
Prairie meadows they make like 90k a year
Poker dealers are making $90k/yr 30 minutes outside of Indianapolis? That must be the best-kept secret in the industry. What's the rake there, 10%/8 max? 10%/10 max?
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11-21-2018 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rm81
Prairie meadows they make like 90k a year
I think you're just making this up or you're using what one dealer might have made in a rare monster down and extrapolating that single down over an entire year. There's not one legal poker room in this country where dealers are averaging $90K/year especially in some tiny room in Iowa. Not one.

There's only one guy that I've ever heard of that pulls in that kind of money [mod edit]

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11-22-2018 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by T1967
I think you're just making this up or you're using what one dealer might have made in a rare monster down and extrapolating that single down over an entire year. There's not one legal poker room in this country where dealers are averaging $90K/year especially in some tiny room in Iowa. Not one.

There's only one guy that I've ever heard of that pulls in that kind of money [mod edit]

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Altoona, Iowa.

A dealer said he made that much and there are other dealers who probably make more. They no longer hire !00% poker dealers though so you would have to deal pit games and poker if you got hired there. But the grandfathered in dealers make a ton of money.

They are carrying around boxes with $500 in them and getting red birds on the reg I am not making it up.
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11-22-2018 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rm81
Altoona, Iowa.

A dealer said he made that much and there are other dealers who probably make more. They no longer hire !00% poker dealers though so you would have to deal pit games and poker if you got hired there. But the grandfathered in dealers make a ton of money.

They are carrying around boxes with $500 in them and getting red birds on the reg I am not making it up.
Did it ever occur to that that dealer might be full of poop? I deal and if the subject of how much I make comes up I always stay quiet about it, as does every other dealer I've seen when it comes up. I makes nowhere near 90k, but I don't want anyone at the tables knowing what I make because I don't want any of them to tip less.

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11-22-2018 , 05:38 PM
It's funny because I'm pretty sure since you've come here, you're one of the ones that's always talking about how much they make in these threads. "I don't want anyone at the tables knowing what I make because I don't want any of them to tip less."
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11-22-2018 , 06:52 PM
Unless you actually see more than one year of tax returns (if that casino requires tips be turned in every night) you won't know what dealers actually make. We lie to others to make it seem like we make more or less than we really do, and more importantly we lie to ourselves. We think the good days and weeks are normal and the ones where there's no work are aberrations. Same as poker players. I remember telling myself and others how I was making $60/hr playing 1/2 and 1/3 because there was a 4 month stretch when I did. It took going broke to break me out of that mindset. When you're a dealer there's always some money coming in so you might never get hit in the face with reality.

My toke box holds about 220 chips packed tight. Unless those dealers have bigger boxes or half are reds they aren't holding $500. If they actually hit that number then good on them, I don't see that happening on the reg. I've never hit $500.
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11-23-2018 , 05:01 PM
There's a difference between telling strangers on the internet what I make and telling regular players who I deal to multiple nights a week what I make.
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11-24-2018 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
There are definitely cardrooms where dealers make way more than a dollar a hand.
By cardrooms I assume you mean underground/private/grey area games and not legitimate licensed/regulated/legal rooms?

I know dealers at underground games that can take home that kind of money. Usually it's because the people running the game turn a blind eye or actively encourage theft, not just because of the tips (which are actually a lot higher than in a legit game, granted).
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11-24-2018 , 01:27 AM
I don't care how much the dealer makes (as far as what I will tip. I do want her to make a decent wage, but that is really out of my control).

If the rest of the table are stiffs, I am not going to increase my tips to make up for them.

If the rest of the table "over tips", I am not going to decrease my tips because "the dealer is already taken care of"
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