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Originally Posted by albedoa
A surprise bulk tip at the end of the down is neither explorative nor scalable nor transparent. 27offsuit laid out the reasons why.
1) It's not a surprise if the two parties that matter (Dealer and Player) know about it.
2) Anything that's not 'normal' is explorative by nature. It's certainly possible that others have tried it in the past and found it to be less desirable.
3) Scalable is an interesting one. Rooms have moved away from Dealers collecting 'time' probably because it takes time but more importantly they make more rake on a per hand basis in most games. Both rake and tip handling when done on a smaller scale definitely seems more efficient.
4) Transparent is similar to surprise, but point taken that multiple surprises at the same time could muddy the transparency of each event. (Thus the topic of how many presents should you give your kids pops up.)
I didn't find your words harsh. Although, as indicated above, the two parties that matter actually do know wtf is going on. You kept your comments on the topic without attacking me personally. If a Dealer that has just felted me 2-3 times during a down is offended by me toking them when they push out then I guess we do need to worry about society. (Yes, I know that the Dealer personally didn't have anything to do with the felting.)
As far as the bathroom/phone call comment .. I will sometimes go to a Dealer at their next table, or even pull them from break if I've missed their push.
I've never suggested that 'my' system is perfect and should become the norm, only that it's what I do. Nor do I suggest that Dealer's would be better off if there were a bunch of 'mes' running around. I didn't have to put this out 'here', but this is a forum for discussion. I understand that a person's income can be a hot button of emotion, but to suggest that I should either (frigging) conform or not partake at all seems to be a bit shortsighted as well. GL