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Old 04-16-2009, 11:51 AM   #1
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Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

How many people do this at a cardroom or casino where they normally play a lot? Meaning at least once a week. Do you just tip if you have a winning session? How much is appropriate? Let's say you book a $1000 win playing 2/5 - who do you tip and how much?

I will usually throw a couple bucks at the dealer as I'm leaving, and I always tip the dealer a few bucks after I win a pot. Sometimes as much as $10 if it's a big pot. But I'm not sure about what to tip others.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:50 PM   #2
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How many people do this at a cardroom or casino where they normally play a lot? Meaning at least once a week. Do you just tip if you have a winning session? How much is appropriate? Let's say you book a $1000 win playing 2/5 - who do you tip and how much?

I will usually throw a couple bucks at the dealer as I'm leaving, and I always tip the dealer a few bucks after I win a pot. Sometimes as much as $10 if it's a big pot. But I'm not sure about what to tip others.

Like always, it's a personal decision who and what to tip.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:53 PM   #3
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I see shady stuff all the time at Commerce with people tipping. These guys get exact seat selections, priority seating even if there is a list. They get food comps to the buffet etc.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:55 PM   #4
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

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Like always, it's a personal decision who and what to tip.
Understood.

I was asking what other people's tipping habits are.
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:11 PM   #5
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

I regularly play 1/2/3 NL and I tip $1 to $3 on bigger pots that I win, and don't tip anything on lets say a $1-20 pot because it is not profitable for the long run. I don't know if I'm being cheap on this, but tipping big at low stakes will kill your win rate. I.E. if you tip big like $10 on big pots, you are putting yourself at a mathematical disadvantage b/c when you win those pots it won't make up for when you lose those pots because of that $10 tip.

This is a basic example though and isn't exact. I can't tell you how many people I've seen that have won a $10 pot and tipped $2 or $3 when it's shipped their way. Being that the big blind is $3 with a $3 tip he is only profiting $4 on the hand. This will for sure make you a losing player in terms of picking up those small pots no one else wants.

I have never yet tipped anyone other than a dealer and waitress, but I just started playing at this cardroom regularly so I plan on getting to know the floor people and other employees so I can get some perks or advantages like a heads up on a soft or tough game.

I'd say if you plan on playing there regularly and want some extra help start tipping the floor people or other employees. Like said above its all a personal decision.
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:14 PM   #6
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

I rarely tip the floor or brushes except they do me a favor (ie: finding me a table I want to move to = $2). Besides that I do not tip them.
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:16 PM   #7
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

Just the dealer......sometimes if i cash out like $1011 ill give the extra dollar to the cage...

never played a big live tourney so i dont know what to give to who if i won alot from a tourn. still if i had to pick id prolly tip the final table dealer obv, then maybe uhhh... id tip the floor manager or whoever pays me out?
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:19 PM   #8
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

I give a buck to the chip runner when I sit down.

When cashing out, if I'm winner, I drop a buck in the cashier toke box.

I've never tipped a floor, unless they were chip running. I don't think floors should be allowed to take tips. This could seriously compromise their ability to make correct decisions and it seems like a conflict of interest.
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:21 PM   #9
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

I used to work as a poker dealer in a Canadian Casino... All tips are shared amongst the employees. The dealers that have been there longer get a higher percentage of the tips.. Tips were paid out on a bi weekly basis.

The poker room made majority of tips compared to the rest of the casino... Regardless who you give it to, they're all sharing it
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:25 PM   #10
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

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never played a big live tourney so i dont know what to give to who if i won alot from a tourn. still if i had to pick id prolly tip the final table dealer obv, then maybe uhhh... id tip the floor manager or whoever pays me out?
In a live tournament, each dealer signs the table card when they start so the tournament directors know who was dealing and for how long. When you cash, I typically tip about 5% (which is standard, but obviously is up to you), and that money all gets back to the dealers based on the attendance card.

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I've never tipped a floor, unless they were chip running. I don't think floors should be allowed to take tips. This could seriously compromise their ability to make correct decisions and it seems like a conflict of interest.
I hadn't thought about that. I'll check for a toke box at the cage next time, but I don't think they have one.

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I used to work as a poker dealer in a Canadian Casino... All tips are shared amongst the employees. The dealers that have been there longer get a higher percentage of the tips.. Tips were paid out on a bi weekly basis.

The poker room made majority of tips compared to the rest of the casino... Regardless who you give it to, they're all sharing it
I would think that not all poker rooms operate this way.
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Old 04-16-2009, 03:28 PM   #11
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I carry severals rolls of silver dollars. You can get them for about $15 to $20 per silver dollars or $300 to $400 per roll.
If a casino employee speaks to me, nod their head in my direction or comes within five feet of me I give them one silver dollar. For real service like remembering to deal me a hand, I give three silver dollars. If I win a hand, my girlfriend takes care of the dealer's tip.
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Old 04-16-2009, 04:57 PM   #12
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

Floorpeople are management. Don't tip management.

I tip the dealers and chip runners. (Bringing me chips at my club is more of a chore than for most players, because the chip runner has to print out a voucher for my player's bank for me to sign.)
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Old 04-16-2009, 05:07 PM   #13
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

I always tip the chip runner a buck or 2 when they bring me chips. Its a small price and they do work for tips. A smile and perhaps taking them out of the rack is nice.

I only tip the floor if they are actually doing something. I rarely tip the floor at the Oaks because they are the worst. They don't pay attention to anything. They BS with each other and are a complete joke. Players jump tables, leaving games short. They are the worst.

I'll tip the floor at Garden or Bay most of the time, they do a decent job. Getting me a seat, table changes, service, etc..

These employees work for tips, tipping few bucks is the cost of playing in a card room. You don't want to tip these employees, stay home and play on the computer.
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Old 04-16-2009, 06:28 PM   #14
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

the only advantage i see is tipping the commerce floor. every other place seems like a waste. the commerce floor will let you skip the wait lists and give you tables you want if you tip a couple bucks here and there. i love to NOT tip for food comps at the bellagio, especially to the morning shift manager lady, she gets so mad. previously a floorman was fired at the B for not giving out the food comp unless you give them a tip.
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Old 04-16-2009, 07:58 PM   #15
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I used to work as a poker dealer in a Canadian Casino... All tips are shared amongst the employees. The dealers that have been there longer get a higher percentage of the tips.. Tips were paid out on a bi weekly basis.

The poker room made majority of tips compared to the rest of the casino... Regardless who you give it to, they're all sharing it
In the USA, very very few poker rooms pool their tips except in tournaments..
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:04 PM   #16
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the only advantage i see is tipping the commerce floor. every other place seems like a waste. the commerce floor will let you skip the wait lists and give you tables you want if you tip a couple bucks here and there. .
Don't you see something wrong with this?
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:24 PM   #17
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I occasionally tip chip runners, generally if they address me by name (I'm an easy mark in some ways). I have never tipped floor staff, and think it odd that anybody would.
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:28 PM   #18
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Don't you see something wrong with this?
Well of course, he surely does. But on the other hand, what's the point in arguing with reality?
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:38 PM   #19
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

usually $1 when i win a hand. however, i take great care of the floor. in return i get great seat selection, game selection, calling from my car to put my name on the top of the board, etc. if i am playing $20/40 NL i usually slip the floor $50. this gets me whatever i want. around christmas i give the floor a huge "tip".

if i expect to make 6bb per hour and i am playing 6 plus hours, this makes me money. i have them move me to the seat i want on a fish, even have them move a few fish i request to my table. it is amazing what money buys.
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:55 PM   #20
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I have never tipped floor staff, and think it odd that anybody would.
Example... some twit at the table says "there's a TDA rule that says XYZZY". You say "BS". He says "wanna bet?" "How much?" "Your house?" "How 'bout $100?" "You serious?" "Sure" "Well... I don't want to bet $100, but how about $5?" "Fine--FLOOR! You have a copy of the TDA rules we could look at?" he goes and prints it off on the computer and you win your $5 bet. And then give it to the floor since he did all the work and it wasn't about winning $5, it was about winning!
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:50 PM   #21
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The dealer in a charity tournament was suggesting to "remember your dealer" and such, so I tipped 5%, or $5.00 (directly to the dealer).

A couple days later, when I called to find how tips are handled I discovered that this is actually illegal in Michigan, so I'll not plan to do that again. Instead, the suggestion is to present the tip to the floor manager.

This sounds like a loophole to me. I'll probably look into the laws/rules on the day following my next win, so I'll probably tip nothing next time around.

I like the charity poker, but tips could actually do harm if/when someone gets busted for it. I was at a charity party once that got raided and the (excuse) for the police invasion was that simple little tip jar in the corner even though it seemed harmless enough.
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:52 PM   #22
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

If the room allows it, do it. I get some of the floors I like little gifts for presents on christmas (gift cards, **** like that), and always give certain brush's a 20 spot. I also never have to wait on the list... they know who butters their bread, and its good for business.

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Old 05-05-2009, 12:34 AM   #23
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If the room allows it, do it. I get some of the floors I like little gifts for presents on christmas (gift cards, **** like that), and always give certain brush's a 20 spot. I also never have to wait on the list... they know who butters their bread, and its good for business.

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So you grease the skids and get to skip ahead of the regular folks who just come in and think they should wait their turn as their parents taught them was polite?

Why would you think anyone would be hating on you?
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:41 AM   #24
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Re: Tipping the brush/floor/other cardroom employees?

For non-dealers:

I tip a dollar to the chip runners when getting a rack. [Obviously, I'm losing or just sitting down so it's rarely a bigger tip. -- Also, I play lower stakes, mostly.]

I tip roughly 2% on jackpot/handpay/W2-G sort of things to the person involved in my service.

The food server gets a chip for free sodas and couple bucks on top of our discounted food.
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Old 05-05-2009, 02:08 AM   #25
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I usually tip $1 to a dealer every 2nd or 3rd small pot I win. $1 for a medium sized pot. And like $2-$3 for large pots.

I was playing one time sitting in seat 3, this really annoying guy in seat 2 brought a bag of cheerios with him to the table and was eating them while he was playing but not like a normal person. He would hold the bag up to his mouth and eat them like a dog eats food out of a dog bowl. He ended up dropping the bag on the floor and spilling cheerios all over the place.

Being the jerk that he was he immediately requests a seat change and moves to the 8 seat. 20 minutes or so later the worlds oldest janitor comes with a broom and dust pan to clean up the cheerios. Me and another 20ish guy each tip him $5. The guy smiles and says that was the first time he has ever gotten a tip.
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