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07-21-2020 , 10:28 AM
I have been to a few different casinos and am curious as to how a timed rake works. I understand that it is a fee you pay for a half hour of play but what are the rules as far as when a player gets up. Does the dealer still deal them in? What if a player is new to the table after the rake has been collected? Do they still pay? Any insight to this would be welcomed. I am starting to get into bigger limit games and have noticed PLO is a timed rake. I would like to understand it before I start playing it. Thank you1
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07-21-2020 , 10:42 AM
If a player gets up, and isn't at the table during the next time rake then the dealer will take the amount of rake needed from the player's stack. If a new player sits down they do not pay until the next time rake period.
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07-21-2020 , 08:56 PM
In terms of whether a player is still dealt in if they get up, it varies by casino. In Vegas and MD, a player is dealt in until they miss a big blind (I’m sure other locales also but these are ones I know for sure). In NJ they don’t deal you in you are away from the table.
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07-21-2020 , 09:21 PM
As above.

Most places (and closer to all places up until a few years ago) you are dealt out whenever you are not at the table at the time of the deal, just like a normal pot rake game.

A few years ago a few places started dealing you in until you missed a button. I generally like it as a quality of life improvement, because you no longer have to yell and wave and run to get back to the table as you're returning from the bathroom or whatever to get a hand. On the flip side, every once in a while the dealer forgets to do it and some nit notices and complains and they have to do a misdeal for no good reason.

Most places don't charge you if you sit at a dealer change (which tends to be when players change as well). Some places charge you if you sit within the first X minutes after a dealer change. Some charge you only if there's a list. Some (few) charge you whenever you sit down, regardless.

For some of the bigger games, rather than paying time individually, they will do a time flop (or more rarely these days, one or more time pots). Basically, a time flop is when the flop gets spread next, whatever number comes up first on the board pays time for everyone (so if the board is 63J, the 6 seat pays). They do this because it's faster, and because the size of the time is smaller compared to a pot size, and just because GAMBOL. Generally you can opt out of this and just pay your own time. Just ask at the table and someone will tell you the custom at that game. Time pots are a little different, but similar concept.
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07-22-2020 , 10:04 AM
Unless you're new to the table (within a hand or two), you pay a fixed amount of money every 30 minutes, usually when a new dealer pushes in. If you're away from the table when a new dealer sits down, the new dealer will take the time from your stack of chips.

Whether you're in your seat or not, if you don't have a missed blind button, you'll get dealt in and your hand will be killed in turn. Once you miss your blind, you won't receive any additional hands until you post again (or wait for your big blind).

There's a couple ways that players like paying time. The most obvious is every player pays a fixed amount. Another way is that only one player pays based on a certain condition. One condition can be the winner of the first pot the new dealer deals pays the time.

Another is called a time flop where the first card of the flop determines which player pays the time for the whole table. Whatever card comes up corresponds to the seat that pays. If a 10 or a face card comes up, then you go to the second card, the third card, and so on. If the hand ends pre-flop, the dealer will still put out a flop, turn, etc to determine who pays time.

Sometimes most of the table wants to do a time flop but one player wants to opt out. The player that wants to opt out can just give his time to another player and then that other player assumes the responsibility for his seat and the seat of the guy who opted out.
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07-24-2020 , 05:12 PM
Sounds just like Gardena, CA in the 1960s.
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