I greatly benefited from someone open-folding in a game last night, and i got alot of hate from the other guy in the hand. I will explain.

To make a long story short i was in a big pot on 5/10nl chasing an up and down straightflush draw which started on the flop. Anyway on the turn the board was J1045 with 2 clubs and i had the KQ of clubs. On the turn it went player 1 bet 600/ I call 600and then the guy last to act called(with only 800 behind) I had over 5 thousand and so did the person who bet the 600.

Anyway here is where things get interesting. The rivercard comes a 4 to pair the board. Player number 1 thinks for awhile, and throws his hand facedown into the muck and now the action is on me. The player last to act imediately got angry and was like"what the hell" then looked at me and was like"do you wanna chop?"
I just said no, thatd be cheating and i have to play my hand. I shoved allin because i determined 2 things. IF he had a great hand to begun with he'd of jammed the turn with so much in there, so i put him on literally just the A high nutdraw. I had K high so i had to bet. IF the first player didnt open fold though, Id of checked. by player 1 open folding totally changed the outcome of the hand because i never would have shoved.

Anyway after i shoved i got the quick fold and then i showed my hand because i wanted to rub it in his face because the jerk called me greedy when i wouldnt chop(like lol its so obvious he doesnt have top boat or anything when he says that and its clearly cheating for him to even say such a thing)
He got angry and then accused ME of cheating with player 1. Most absurd thing i ever heard directed at me.

Anyway, how do you guys view open folding? Its a legal play you are allowed to make when action is on you but is it bad etiquette to do?

The guy basically declared he would fold to any bet, lol at requesting chopping. that's so stupid and also insulting to the guy that open folded. Well played.

Most places don't allow it and give out warnings. It's certainly bad etiquette, but since it's usually done by terrible players, most people don't mind.

As for using the additional information you have to try to win the hand, that's poker. lol at the guy being upset at you for not chopping, but you're kind of a jerk for rubbing it in after winning the hand due to the unfair advantage that you gained.

I think if someone accuses you of cheating or being cheap then its ok to "rub it in" I also went as far to say"hey if you are gonna get mad at someone get mad at the guy who openfolded, if he didnt youd of won the pot! Id of checked"!

I think you should grow thicker skin and stop letting people bait you into showing your bluffs.

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I never open fold but would never complain about others doing it.

congrats. I greatly benefit from people'e mistakes every time I sit at a poker table.

So your question is about checking out. Open folding is when it's on you preflop when you're under the gun and you fold.

I don't mind when people check out. More info for me when it's my turn to act.

#grammarpolice

NUMBER 1 RULE
NEVER EVER TAP THE GLASS

"checking out" may be what you personally call it, but that's just open folding....folding to no bet. Your attempt at a correction here is a little misguided.

yeah open folding is not just bad etiquette but is also technically against the rules. i dont mind it and i think you did nothing wrong here OP just benefited from another players poor play. lol at the other dude for getting mad. thats just added equity right there!

Just toss your cards to the dealer, face down. Showing your hand was completely unnecessary.

It is neither unethical nor against the rules in most places.

Don't discourage fish from making bad plays.

No way, this is a great show! You can have thick skin and still get a kick out of showing this hand to the attempted colluder.

I don't agree due to being a descriptivist, but I can't even see the prescriptive angle here. What do preflop and UTG have to do with it? Anyway, I am more confused by the correction than by the way OP used the term.

Why would it be cheating for him to say such a thing?

Players chopping a pot like that is generally illegal. Asking to do something illegal is an attempt to cheat.....

Was this a home game? Does any casino card room allow players to chop a pot once they get down to heads up?

While the possibility is there, OP is clearly tilting his balls off.

The first player should be sent home for the day, IMO. Folding out of turn is against the rules, and this kind of situation is why.

OP didn't cheat, but is a douchebag.

Funny opinions from some of you. Ill address two of them.

Im a tllter because i showed? Im a douchebag? Id lke to ask you how you react to some random gy telling you in public you colluded with someone(who i never seen in my life) and also called me greedy because i wouldnt comply wth his attempt to cheatchopping the pot is definately cheating). This happened at the foxwoods pokerroom.

SO yes, i got a kick out of it, when someone i did not like or respect. He was steamed, and i wanted to tilt him further. SHowing him my cards and telling him he would have won the pot got under his skin. People like that dont deserve respect guys. hes a lowlife. Some people need to be put in their place.

The guy had a right to be steamed, another player broke the rules and cost him the pot, through no fault of his own. You decided to do something to deliberately tilt him. In 15 years of playing serious poker, I have never once tried to tilt anyone, and I never would. IMO anyone who does that is a douchebag.

No money at 5/10....everybody's solid.

This is a wild admission and label. At a minimum, a lot of people get tilted by being caused to make mistakes or to lose money, and we try to be the cause every hand, knowing it will tilt them. So we are all “douchebags” for playing the game?

I mean that’s just the most common source of tilt. I’m guilty of much more. I have never heard that it is wrong to try to tilt someone. Never show a bluff??

What rule is there for folding when you can check in a cash game? Surely the player has gotten a penalty of some sort right?

Probably not...
I believe that folding when you could check is actually against the rules in Britain (as are many things!), but IME it never was, and is not, generally against the rules in US cash poker. (If anyone can find this rule in RRoP or elsewhere, please cite it.) Perhaps it should be...
However, it is definitely considered by many players to be bad etiquette. Usually it makes little or no actual difference, but it's hard always to know, and it certainly can have a big effect in some situations, like this one, which probably deserved a warning.
OTOH, showing a bluff has several possible purposes: ego gratification; entertainment; image management; loosening up the game; tilting others. Deliberately tilting someone else has always been a part of poker. It may or may not always be polite or smart, and you may or may not choose to do it, but it has always been part of the game.

Is this actually a rule in US casinos? Or is it something that some posters would like it to be a rule? Is it ever seriously enforced anywhere at a cash game table? Tournaments might be different I guess? Personally I have seen folks muck hands like this lots of times and nothing is ever said that I can remember.