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Are they not using the must move rule everywhere? Are they not using the must move rule everywhere?

04-19-2021 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
PS .. I've stated before that a casino in my region (Poto in Milwaukee) doesn't use a MM table, but it 'protects' a new table by not allowing Players from any other table moving to it for at least an hour upon opening. Players at a new table can move out, but only Players from the list can sit down until that first hour is over.
I thought that poker room uses a MM for PLO, at least.
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04-20-2021 , 07:51 AM
Thank you Mason .. comments well received (and for sending the PDF anyway!)

As far as Poto .. They typically don't have more than 2 PLO games open at one time, so it is likely that they implement a MM as needed. Things should change once they open back up since PLO was/is taking the Midwest by storm .. but even in some of the busiest rooms you're hard pressed to find more than 2 tables of the same stake open at a time, so 'protecting' a table is not really needed.

I don't know their trigger point (4th, 5th or 6th table opening) but I like the concept when you still have a healthy list even after filing the seats at the new table. GL


PS .. Certainly not a topic for this thread, but I've found in 3-4 rooms that the PLO 'experts' have no clue how to cultivate their Player pool. It's bad enough that NL Players experience the additional variance when trying PLO .. they don't need to be berated about their play. One casino had a great 1/3 match-stack Player pool going and then started to try a 1/2 game to increase interest. It went well for about 2 weeks, until the 1/3 Players started to just run the game over with pot-pot PF spots since the stakes were 'so low'.

Last edited by answer20; 04-20-2021 at 07:58 AM.
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04-20-2021 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by holmfries
This is possibly one of the worst takes I’ve heard on MM games. They are critical for the health and survival of larger (20/40+) LHE games. They’ve been used successfully and without major issue for as long as I can remember. Your notion of having “statistical support” for them being bad is highly dubious and you should probably support your claims before you make such baseless assertions. Otherwise that just like, your opinion man.
You need to get the book and read the chapter. Must-Move is a terrible rule and the idea of "statistical support" mostly applies to other topics in the book.

Best wishes,
Mason
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04-20-2021 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
Thank you Mason .. comments well received (and for sending the PDF anyway!)

As far as Poto .. They typically don't have more than 2 PLO games open at one time, so it is likely that they implement a MM as needed. Things should change once they open back up since PLO was/is taking the Midwest by storm .. but even in some of the busiest rooms you're hard pressed to find more than 2 tables of the same stake open at a time, so 'protecting' a table is not really needed.
Thgere are a couple of comments in the book explaining why PLO is not that successful as a poker game.

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PS .. Certainly not a topic for this thread, but I've found in 3-4 rooms that the PLO 'experts' have no clue how to cultivate their Player pool. It's bad enough that NL Players experience the additional variance when trying PLO .. they don't need to be berated about their play. One casino had a great 1/3 match-stack Player pool going and then started to try a 1/2 game to increase interest. It went well for about 2 weeks, until the 1/3 Players started to just run the game over with pot-pot PF spots since the stakes were 'so low'.
The book also addresses issues like this.

Best wishes,
Mason
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