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Old 07-12-2018, 09:59 PM   #1
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Snoqualmie, WA poker room shutting down

Here's a good one. They are taking the poker jackpot funds and putting it into an Ultimate Texas Hold'Em jackpot, calling it a 'similar game'.

Also, the Washington State Gambling Commission didn't hear that and start laughing. They repeated it as if it makes any sense at all.

Oh well... gg Sno Casino

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Good afternoon Mr. Johnson
I called and left you a message but wanted to follow-up in writing too.

I received your complaint that the Snoqualmie casino “player-funded poker jackpot fund is about to be confiscated and given to the slot machine progressive payout fund.”

I spoke with the Snoqualmie Tribal Gaming Director Daniel Hanson yesterday about the poker room closing down and that the player supported jackpot (PSJ) monies are being moved to the progressive jackpot for Ultimate Texas Hold’em located in the gaming pits.

The Tribal casino’s do not operate under WA Administrative Code (WAC); instead they operate under Tribal-State Compacts. And, unfortunately there is no mention of PSJ under these Compacts. And, as a result the casino can actually do anything they wish with these monies in cases like this. However, the casino has decided to move these monies into a similar poker game located in their pit, with the PSJ money going into a progressive jackpot which all players will have an opportunity to win.

I am not sure where you heard that the monies are going to ‘slot machine progressive payout fund’ but that is not what is happening.

I am sorry I can’t help you.

Sincerely Jon


Jon Godfrey
Washington State Gambling Commission

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Old 07-12-2018, 11:51 PM   #2
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Re: Snoqualmie, WA poker room shutting down

Ouch.

Out of curiosity, approximately how much was in the fund?
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:17 PM   #3
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The Tribal casino’s do not operate under WA Administrative Code (WAC); instead they operate under Tribal-State Compacts. And, unfortunately there is no mention of PSJ under these Compacts. And, as a result the casino can actually do anything they wish with these monies in cases like this.
Sad but true in most tribal casinos. Bye bye money. Also curious how much it was...
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:25 PM   #4
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Last time I checked, 40k or so. I'll get an updated number.
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Old Yesterday, 09:28 AM   #5
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All the more reason that Indian Gaming and their tribal laws, operations and the like are one thing,....BUT, the American consumer needs to be serviced and protected in a better way by states that want to do just that. I'm thinking that I.G. has started to run its course, and states need to fully legalize gaming and get in there, protect their taxpayers and consumers, and help grow the industry. Taxes, jobs, entertainment and adjacent economic benefit await.
Or, like California, be a politician whopse elections/rel-elections are fully supported by IG and the tribes, and do nothing.
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BUT, the American consumer needs to be serviced and protected in a better way by states that want to do just that.
Employees, too.
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Employees, too.
yes, agree.....well said
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Employees especially.
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Old Today, 02:42 PM   #10
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Re: Snoqualmie, WA poker room shutting down

well indians deem themselves a sovereign nation and not the u.s. but like being citizens and getting both benefits. not arguing whether they deserve it or not but you have to know that they make and set their own rules just like the smoking ban.

if what they do falls under state rules it pays to try to get them enforced.

but when you go to another nation for a visit you have to realize you arent being protected the same as if in the real u.s.

its like going to the mafia for a loan. you may get the money but what goes with it is scary.
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Re: Snoqualmie, WA poker room shutting down

I thought I posted in this thread already, but oh well.

The casino does not appear to be violating any rules, laws, or regulations. They could choose to simply pocket the money and not make it available to any gamblers.

If you disagree, cite a rule that they are breaking. You could also consider contacting the tribal, rather than state, gaming commission and see if they are violating some internal control documents.
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