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slow play? slow play?

06-03-2018 , 12:47 AM
Just watched Joey Ingram's interview with Jason Koon and he goes on if you slow play and take 40+ seconds every hand you will not get invited back to the high limit private games. I get so aggravated when I play against slow players. What does everyone do when people take 40+ seconds for simple decisions like folding pre flop to a 3 bet pre and you look down and see 7/2 off and still take for ever to fold. Everyone thinks they are on TV and want screen time even when they are playing 1/2 nl in a casino.
I say some smart ass stuff but it does backfire where they take even longer out of spite.
Then when people wait till it is on them to start to think, I have a good idea of what I will do if you do this, or this and just do it. Very rarely I have to sit and think and rebuild the hand in my head. I already did that when they were tanking and already know what I am going to do if they check, bet or jam. It is not like a rocket science. When some people sit and tank I get really annoyed and ask them if they are wondering if they turned the stove off or what they are going to watch on TV when they go home and did the set the DVR for the game tonight? Sometime I just say Pizza, I want pizza and they say things like what? I then say I thought you were thinking what I had for dinner. Now I want a pizza.
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06-03-2018 , 09:29 AM
Yeah live poker can be annoying. It annoys some folks a lot more than others.
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06-03-2018 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bene Gesserit
Yeah live poker can be annoying. It annoys some folks a lot more than others.
I have also notice it is happening online now too much, people let the clock run down every hand.
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06-03-2018 , 01:30 PM
If people notice how worked up you get over stuff like that, that increases the likelihood for them to do it just to tilt you..
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06-03-2018 , 05:01 PM
People take a long time because they are bad at poker. It’s better to play against bad players but you will experience a bunch of annoying habits as a result. If that’s so frustrating for you, maybe move up to a bigger game? I hear those guys are nicer to play with, of course there’s a downside as well.
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06-03-2018 , 08:50 PM
I just watch Lex video on the scoop and he play crazy fast. It doesn't put me on tilt when I get some guy that is clearly doing it to play slow and isn't doing anything but finishing his prier.
No need to troll, wait before you post. At least 60 seconds.
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06-08-2018 , 12:53 PM
The biggest problem is, somewhere along the way, some poker experts taught that you should take the same amount of time for every decision you make, to not give away information about your hand (such as acting quickly with a strong hand vs acting slowly when making a tough decision, etc, etc). That's why a player takes 30 seconds to fold or 30 seconds to call or 30 seconds to raise.

I understand the concept but it's getting out of control. It's ok to fold quickly when you know you're going to fold, especially preflop. It's not a head's up situation where you might gain some information from the villain the longer you wait to act. When you look down at 83 offsuit and you know you're going to fold, it's ok to go ahead and fold.

That's why I'm a big fan of a shot clock in tournament poker.
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06-08-2018 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Goud21
That's why I'm a big fan of a shot clock in tournament poker.
The shot clock helps with a lot of stuff, but not with the situation you described. Players can still take 20-30 seconds on every trivial decision if they want to, at least if it's the standard 30 second clock.
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06-08-2018 , 04:23 PM
I would think a clock would encourage people to use it.
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06-08-2018 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
The shot clock helps with a lot of stuff, but not with the situation you described. Players can still take 20-30 seconds on every trivial decision if they want to, at least if it's the standard 30 second clock.
I agree, but 20-30 seconds is a lot shorter than some of what is happening. The other day in a WSOP event, it was head's up preflop (no limpers, cut off raised, button and small blind fold, it's back on the big blind). The big blind took 3 minutes (actual time, 3 minutes...no exaggeration) and then folded. In the process of folding, the big blind's 62 off suit was exposed accidentally (he folded and his cards flipped over). This wasn't near the money bubble, this wasn't a guy trying to hang on for his tournament life, this was just a guy taking 3 minutes to take 3 minutes. A shot clock helps solve that problem
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06-15-2018 , 06:35 PM
In times gone by there was the crazy idea that we try to keep it collegial and use gentle persuasion until it's clear that won't work, and maybe then call the clock if needed. Why wouldn't that work now?

I've never actually had to call the clock. Usually the person tanking is a little embarrassed they're taking so much time and only doing it 1-2 times a night. If someone's spitefully taking 60 seconds to make every trivial preflop decision then calling the clock seems necessary. But this doesn't sound like the norm at all for low stakes live poker in the US.

If the floor is making a trip to the table every hand, they'll have both incentive to suggest the slowpoke shape up and authority to do something about it.
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06-17-2018 , 11:30 AM
I never call a clock to avoid a confrontation. Besides I know for certain that someone else certainly will at most casino tables.
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06-17-2018 , 08:37 PM
be nice at first but after that if they don't stop keep calling the clock.
these players are unbearable, they ruin games,cause bad players to leave etc.
of course nobody who tanks all the time would be invited to home games.
tanking is 99 pct bs anyway.
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06-17-2018 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
The shot clock helps with a lot of stuff, but not with the situation you described. Players can still take 20-30 seconds on every trivial decision if they want to, at least if it's the standard 30 second clock.
and if people do in a few years the clock will be a lot shorter
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06-17-2018 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bene Gesserit
I never call a clock to avoid a confrontation. Besides I know for certain that someone else certainly will at most casino tables.
Bystander Apathy.
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06-18-2018 , 05:44 AM
"Table change please!"....If that's not an option and I don't feel like leaving the game, but the continual tanking is really starting to aggravate me, I pull out the phone and start playing some Sudoku puzzles to pass the time in a more pleasant manner. Not the best idea to start focusing on other activities at the table, but for me it's much better than going on life tilt because of a player who thinks he's playing a Super High Roller.
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06-18-2018 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DisRuptive1
Bystander Apathy.
Not really. I am fairly hopefull for somebody to call a clock on a bad tanker. I am NEVER disapointed either!
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