Interesting spot:

Raised pot 3 way. Hero has 10/10.

Flop A /A/4. Check/bet $15, call, call.

Turn J . Checks through.

River 10. B.B. leads 40, UTG calls. I tank shove 200. B.b. calls all in for 170. UTG is thinking (has me covered so there will be a small side pot of $60 if he calls). Even though he knows UTG in hand, B.B. shows a royal flush. UTG folds his ace costing me the side pot.

Any merit to calling the floor to see if his hand is dead for showing? He also hit a royal flush bonus. I didn’t want to be that guy for no reason but if there was a chance his hand is dead, I might consider it. I’m not sure what the house rule is. Heads up it’s fine to show cards.

Call the floor and ask him to explain to the player why he shouldn't expose his hand and to give him a warning. If he instead decides to rule the hand dead, your hands are clean because you weren't asking for that.

I like BD's line there. And the guy really should be given a polite warning for what he did.

This.

BB exposing his hand can significantly affect the hand and is a perfectly acceptable reason to call floor, but don't just call the floor because you're hoping the hand is rendered dead. That is being a rules nit and a borderline angle shooter.

I'm not sure the warning should be polite. If he was just excited and lost track of the fact there was still action then a polite warning is appropriate.

But if this was a jackoff thinking he would save his friend $200 then give him the pot, his bonus, and show him where to cash out....

I might have been polite because that's my nature (usually) but I wouldn't want to be. That's BS, and if those 2 are actually friends, it might lead to an 86 for the day.

Guy checks turn, just calls River and you are that sure he is going to overcall your shove?

RF maybe cost himself $140 and you $30.

If I call the Floor, I would do it to have RF (and the rest of the players) warned. I would not want his hand ruled dead.

Your only complaint is that he may have cost you a theoretical sidepot....but we all know he didn't, really. If 3rd player only had a bare ace, he can't call two all-ins with that board. As soon as he didn't snap-call, we all know he was folding.

Remember, tanking in this spot is not a sign of a player considering what to do--he's already decided what to do! This delay is merely the logical part of brain, which makes the decision, trying to convince the emotional part of his brain to get on board. He *knows* he's folding here...he just needs to go through all seven stages of grief before he lets go of the cards.

I am increasingly of the opinion that it is bet angly to call the floor and advocate for a specific outcome. Call the floor, accurately describe what happened, and ask for a ruling. Don't start off 'His hand should be dead'.

I constantly hear players talking about how a hand will be killed in that spot but that's true in very few rooms. Asking for the floor to be called is just going to make you look bad. He deserves a scolding here for showing his hand with action still pending but it's not going to change what already happened.

No. There may be merit to speaking up and pointing out that you still had sidepot action.

I'll be influenced if there is a relationship between the 2 players, and RF guy was happy to take your chips and not theirs as a result.

Of course he knew UTG was in the hand but he was all-in and tabled his hand as soon as he called your Hollywood tank/all-in. I don't see any angling here the guy tabled his hand after calling an all-in bet and wasn't thinking of any possible side action.

It's an innocent mistake OP just suck it up and move on already.

If the floor was called and they killed his hand without a warning I would quit poker (they're not killing his hand).

And as far as saying the remaining player wasn't going to call. It is a possibility. It might even be a probability ..... But we have all seen players make bad calls so we can't rule it out.

I'd call the floor as an onlooker if it was a place I liked playing at. I'd explain the action and ask what should happen to the exposed guy's hand.

If I was OP I'd ask the BB what his angle was without pause. Depending on his response is how pushy I'd be when calling floor.

Yeah.

Who wants to play by the rules?

I concur

I'm one of the most pro-"suck it up and move on already" people on this forum and even this example is way too egregious to claim is an innocent mistake.

Hand won't get killed but he needs a warning. It will probably be a warning that only applies or is only needed when he has a royal flush but it needs to be given none the less.

To everyone saying that BB and UTG were buddies, how do you know this? OP never says that is the case. From the OP, all I see is that BB cost himself $130 and in the process cost OP $30. If we know he showed his hand to save his buddy some money then yeah he needs to be warned, but if that wasn't the case then it seems 100% likely he just made a dumbass mistake that (possibly) cost himself a lot.

UTG was thinking ... for how long? Yes, would be a form of collusion/soft play if they were regs/buddies.

Hands are basically never killed in a cash game for this and TDA even has it in the rules that the hand is still live for tournament play, but subject to 'possible' penalties after the hand is over.

In the right (wrong) set of circumstances you could've had his promo $$ taken away for a rules violation during the hand. I've heard stories of BBJs being lost due to technicalities during the hand .. talking/showing. Huge stretch here, but possible. GL

seems unfortunate. exposing multi-way is flagrant and is more like stealing chips from the pot, pushing out short stacks hoping the dealer mis counts, and other things that would quickly cause a game to fall apart if they kept happening, versus grey area rule breaking that isn't so essential - such as a string bet in a home game.

Come on guys, he rivered a royal flush and blew his load too early. No reason to make it any bigger than it is.

He didn't "expose" his hand in the middle of a multiway pot he "Tabled" his hand after calling an all-in bet on the river. Big difference.

utg should get plenty of leniency from the floor then. warning or time-out over taking his money. middle of the hand is auto kill.

As a rules nit I will say this: to try to have an opponent's royal flush declared a dead hand on the grounds that he may have cost you $30 in a pot that was over $400 would be a total angleshot. Not to mention that he cost himself $170.

But, if you suspect they are friends and are softplaying each other then I would use it as a learning experience for them. I would say something like "you know by exposing your hand while there was still action caused me to potentially lose $30, right?". And depending on the guy's response I might call the Floor over to educate him about collusion. Because if he does it here he could do it in a much bigger spot.

Still I would give him some slack because he had a royal flush, which happens almost never, and it could easily have been a lapse of judgement, not intentional collusion or violation of OPTAH.

Huh?? Auto kill?? Why would you rule a hand dead for being exposed? He’s putting himself at a huge disadvantage.