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Originally Posted by psandman
A low should be announced, but not the absence of the low.
That's always been my understanding. Just say, "Ace-high flush" or whatever, but don't say, "no low."
What about if someone asks, "Does she have a low?" when the board doesn't make any low available? Probably best practice would be to answer "No, she does not." But it doesn't matter because it's Omaha so at least 7 other players will chime in. "There's no low out there!"
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But all lows share the same rank (a high card) when playing 8/b.
It often makes more sense to announce the cards the player is using for low as that is what is most easily understood.
For a while I was playing at a room where a dealer would announce, "8-7-5-3-ace low.... But he's got an 8-7-5-
deuce-ace for low." After several sessions I couldn't take it and politely asked him for the abridged version. He said, "Oh, OK," as though no one had ever made this request before.
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Announcing 4 duece for low usually is better understood than announcing 6 5 4 duece ace for low. The exception is the wheel.
Sure, but when a "live card" low is involved I think it's fine to announce that. "Live deuce to a 6." And if anyone's baffled, follow with the clarification: "6-5-4-deuce-ace."
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Originally Posted by Swanhatch
I've been at tables where a dealer mistakenly announces the wrong rank of a tabled hand (saying pair and missing the flush or straight) and being that the hand is tabled, and to protect the integrity of the game, I always point it out right away ("He actually has a straight to the king") because the other players in the hand have the right to act on correct information if they're missing what the dealer also missed. It's not always popular, but it's our responsibility as ethical poker players. I've done it in hands where I'm on the losing end where the dealer, other players, etc. don't notice they have a hand better than mine. I'll just say, "Actually you have a flush" and frustratedly muck my hand, because I'm not a cheater. Best hand should win at showdown, even if you're on the losing end, believe it or not.
Good for you. I agree with all of this, and it's sad that there are people who would think this is out of line.
It's literally in the rulebooks that players SHOULD speak up if the pot is wrong or may be misawarded. Not have the right to speak up. Should.
Misreading a tabled hand (to be a higher rank than it is) is a huge step toward misawarding the pot and needs to be pointed out immediately. The next player mucking a winner based on the mistaken call would be a disaster. Any player should speak up there. If it's misread in the other direction, it's slightly less urgent because someone will speak up before the pot is pushed.