A small pot. The board is 964JJ a few players are in the hand at showdown.

Player A tables 46 ( this player also happened to be the action player of the table)

Player B tables T4

The pot is dragged to player A, while people make jokes about him having 3 pair. Neither the dealer nor any players noticed that the ten plays and T4 should get the pot.

My reaction: I say nothing. I observe that the experience level of my opponents is low. I don't want to draw attention to the fact that I am an attentive and experienced player. I don't want the fish to be annoyed at me that I made a comment that cost him the pot. There really seems to be nothing to gain by making any comment, and the pot is pretty small.

For the record the dealer seemed otherwise competent during the rest of the time I experienced his dealing. Mistakes can happen.

Ok to keep quiet?

... Good thing you said nothing, player A has the best hand.

Ah ya, missed that.

That said, if indeed the pot was shoved to the wrong person and you knowingly let it happen, that's not good. There's no explicit rule I know of that says you have to speak up, but it's good etiquette to do so.

Y...yes?

JJ66 vs JJ44

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

keep quiet, it's best not to bring to the other players attention that you are the fish at the table

The ten plays

but it is still not the best hand..........

best two pair wins. Use your best 5 cards (zero, one or two of your hole cards, combined with community cards ("the board")).

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LOCKED

The correct response is: "No, you should have said something. Everyone would then correct you. You did the right thing, even if you were mistaken."


(if you genuinely think something is going wrong, please speak up)

You should speak up. Any time you think that the pot is being pushed to the wrong player, you should bring it up (assuming both hands have been tabled). In this case they would have said "nope - you are wrong", but there are times when you might stop them from making a mistake. The size of the pot shouldn't affect your decision.

But it is best if you think about it to make sure you are right, before speaking up.

It is one thing to make the mistake at the table, but it is another to type out the whole situation (most likely even proof reading it for mistakes) and STILL not realize what you are missing here.

You should definitely have spoken up.

That you would have been laughed at for speaking up is irrelevant.

**** ****

Player B had T6

lol oh well.

On a more serious note, go ahead and speak up. About 30% of the time I correct the dealer, I am wrong. Who cares? No downside for the table to me being wrong (and honestly, it doesn't embarrass me that much), and the times I do speak up, I keep the dealer from making a mistake.

Just go ahead and say something like 'Dealer, hold for a second, are you reading that right?' No big deal

100% speak up.

I'd rather speak up and be wrong than stay silent and be right. The cards are tabled. Tabled hands read themselves.

Nobody is going to think you're some pro because you know how to read a board properly. Are you serious?

Plus the T has outs to improve

I always speak up when an obvious mistake is made that changes the outcome of a hand.


Only exception is table games obv. Nothing like getting paid off on a losing bet. Has happened ~5 times at the bac table. Good times.

good, don't want the fish exploiting your attentiveness or anything

Ignoring the cards posted in the OP..

You should always speak up any time that a pot is being pushed to the wrong person.
Period. Always.

Anything else is cheating.

I think speaking up is the right thing to do. However, I seldom do it because I am not certain enough that often because of my poor eyesight at distance. If it's close and clear then I will. BTW I have not seen it that often in Casino games. Seems more likely in underground rooms or home games.

ok so obviously not speaking up was correct simply because the OP misread the hand and the correct playing had won the pot.

but, lets assume it was reversed and the wrong player was being pushed the pot, if both players table the hands then it is very appropriate to speak up. if only one player shows say nothing (i.e. "oh you cant beat X?" etc) but if both are face up then its just about making sure the right hand gets the pot at that point, and more people should speak up.

I like the anguish of OP even if he was wrong.

Shows there still is hope for mankind.

“Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching.”

-C.S. Lewis