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Originally Posted by MeetThePress
I won't tell you what I heard, I'll just tell you what I know and what I further believe as a result.
I was at the table during the hand. And you lied..flat out lied about enough of what you wrote below for me to not believe anything you say about the hand and why you did the things you did. The player in the 1 seat...was not Asian. And he did not have a few Asian friends around him, or any friends around for that matter. (though through this lie you tried to make it sound like you couldn't possibly know him or be colluding - at least by your so called definition). It was not obvious it was your last hand. You were not standing during the hand -You were sitting the entire time with a woman behind you. And you were not racked up.
By the way..if you dont doubt I was there....you flopped a set of 9's.
Based on the number of lies you told in your post, I would not be suprised if you were colluding with the the 20 something in the 1-seat. It looked suspicious (thought I did not open my mouth) and the the floor was called over and ruled in the 8-seats favor).
Either way...it looked bad and now it looks worse. If I see you in the room again and see you do that again I will make sure to call it to everyone's attention as well as the same floor person's.
Just play the game straight up for now on please.
I'm not so sure you aren't seat 8, but that doesn't really matter. As a point of interest for those following this thread, seat 8 and I had a dispute a few hours earlier that the floor settled in my favor. Seat 8 was quite unhappy with that decision but that could be another discussion on another day.
What I would like to know is what I "flat out lied" about. I may have been mistaken when I said seat 1 was Asian, but what does that matter? I also said he was a young kid and by my measure, anyone under 40 is a young kid. And by the way, he was talking to some other people. Again, what bearing does this have to this discussion? Is this flat out lying? The point I was trying to make is that we were complete strangers. I never met him before and have no recollection of playing with him before.
The woman behind me was my wife, impatiently waiting for me to leave. This was definitely going to be my last hand. I remember looking down at pocket 9's and thinking Christ I don't want anything playable now, I'm leaving. I (and probably most other players) have lost big on that "last" hand. I couldn't fold pocket 9's when it was limped to me, so I tossed in the nickel and player 1 limped. Trust me- I really didn't want to get involved in a big hand now. I just wanted to go home a winner for this session.
When I hit bottom set I had to play, so I bet 20 into a pot of around 20. Then seat 1 raises to 60, seat 8 folds (after investing all of $5 in this pot) and the action is to me. Then I pushed assuming seat 1 would fold if he had AX. When he started to give thought to calling, I put him on a diamond draw. Then I told him, I am ahead, fold and I'll show you etc., etc. I'll again reiterate, I didn't want an all in confrontation, even though I was truly ahead.
Poker Stove
me 99 74.5%
seat 1 2 diamonds 25.5%
I'm aware I was giving up alot of equity but as I've stated over and over again in this thread, I simply wanted to go home a winner. That was my last hand. I was either racking up or intending to rack up. I think my wife had gotten me a few racks but in any event, that was my last hand.
As far as collusion, that is truly laughable. Did we collude to pick up seat 8's $5 limp? Seat 1 was at the table for only a short time prior to this. I don't recall even being in a hand with him. You can refer to posts in this thread by DEALER-GUY, WEBHAPPY and ZACHVAC for discussion of how ridiculous any accusation of collussion are in this case.
MEET THE PRESS-DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER INSTANCES SUPPORTING COLLUSSION BETWEEN SEAT 1 AND ME OR DO YOU THINK WE PLANNED THIS EARTH SHATTERING HEIST FOR $5?
Here is an interesting aside. I called the poker room today to ask what the formal policy is on talking to a heads up opponent. The answer is this: It is not against the rules but it is discouraged because one of the players in the hand can feel he is being "needled." I'm pretty sure if you ask seat 1 if he was being needled after being persuaded to fold when he was a 3 to1 dog his response to me would be thank you, thank you, thank you.
As far as seat 8 he folded his hand due to seat 1's $60 raise before the push and my talking to seat 1. He was already out of the pot after a $5 limp.
So MEET THE PRESS please tell me what "The number of lies" I told in my original post were?