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Originally Posted by uberkuber
It changes the total amount of the min-raise though, doesn't it?
If X is all-in for 310, the min raise is still 200, but put on top of the 310, so it would total to 510. Is this correct?
Yes that is correct. If A bets 100, B raises to 300 (raise amount of 200), C goes all in for 310 (action only), then the next player who wants to raise has to raise the current action (310) by the current min raise amount (200) to be a full raise, or a raise to at least 310+200=510.
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Originally Posted by Grimstard
Bad customer service imo I would stiff this dealer for the next hand or two. I don’t see why they can’t tell you you’re options unless there’s some specific house rule against it.
Sometimes that is exactly a bad room policy. Sometimes it's a dealer (mis)construing the OPTAH rule.
IMO as long as a player waits to ask until the action is on them, it is a question that can be answered, as are any rule-specific questions (particularly ones that are often different room by room, which this one is not really). A player is entitled to know the rules of the room.
Note that some devious players can use leading questions like this to try to influence the action of other players, i.e. they might ask if they can raise, not because they want to do so themselves, strategically, right now, but because they want to plant the seeds of this possibility in the brain of some other player (most likely because it benefits them, e.g. if a player right behind them could raise all in and it would be enough for this player to then trap any intervening callers with a reraise). There isn't much you can do in the moment, and this is such a rare and unlikely event in the first place, but if you have players who bend the rules like this you give them a warning after the fact and then give them time off if they continue to abuse it, just like with many other rules and angles.
Also note that some experienced dealers disagree with the above, and come down on the side of answering it being a OPTAH violation. I don't agree with them, but it's not a firmly settled point.
Last edited by dinesh; 02-08-2024 at 11:39 AM.