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Old 10-17-2011, 08:13 AM   #51
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

Play at Crown like once/twice year when family who play poker come to Melbourne, rake is horrific, players are even worse. All of their tournaments <$200 are shove fests too
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Old 10-18-2011, 05:03 AM   #52
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

Interesting.

What are the laws regarding opening a competing poker club in the area?
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:18 AM   #53
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gl getting government licensing
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:21 AM   #54
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

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Interesting.

What are the laws regarding opening a competing poker club in the area?
Crown has the only license, and most certainly pay a handsome amount for it to remain that way
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Old 10-18-2011, 07:53 PM   #55
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

How could I possibly forget...
Star Casino, Sydney (how surprising), going back a couple of years before sanity finally prevailed (if you could call the current rake sanity):
5/10 LHE: $1.25 per person per hand! Even if it was folded to the big blind.
10/20 LHE: $2.50 per person per hand!
5/5 (200 buy-in - yes a weird 40bb structure): if memory serves me correctly 10% up to $10 plus $1 per person per hand.
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Old 10-19-2011, 02:10 AM   #56
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

"gl getting government licensing"

you can't get a licence to run cash games in Melb., however you can run a poker room that spreads tournies/sit n go's with vouchers as prizes, i'm thinking petrol and grocery vouches would be easily bartered for consistent winners,

pokerdome were doing it in Sydney iirc, don't know why it went bust, people prefer cash play maybe??
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:00 PM   #57
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Royal Caribbean Cruise Line:
10% to a max of $25
They've changed this now? It used to be 10% uncapped
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Old 11-21-2011, 09:10 PM   #58
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Royal Caribbean Cruise Line:
10% to a max of $25
I just returned home last week from a Royal Caribbean cruise on Voyager of the Seas and the rake was 10% to a max of $15.

Earlier this year I was on a Royal Caribbean cruise on Mariner of the Seas and the max was only $10.

I cruise quite often and have never come across a $25max on any ship of Royal Caribbean or any other cruise line for that matter.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:36 AM   #59
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Its worse here in Berlin. 20 euro cap.
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:02 PM   #60
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

lol, all cheap compared to some London clubs..
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:17 AM   #61
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

Recent reports from management would suggest rake on 2/3 is increasing from $8 max to $10 max.

Current buy ins are worth a mention for their stupidity: $50 min $200 max.

Home games are flourishing with many good crown dealers hosting.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:46 AM   #62
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Heard a good one at a cash table at Star City (or The Star if you're really up with the times) the other night.

I was expressing some shock to the dealer when he took rake from a pot that didn't go to a flop, and the old guy who hadn't said a word in the 20 minutes he'd been at the table chimes in with "these crooks even rake the misdeals."

Got a few LOL's
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:29 PM   #63
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

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Seoul, Korea is the same. Plus $1 for Bad Beat. Plus $1 for tip.

Renders game virtually unbeatable.
Why are you tipping in Korea? They don't tip for anything else so why would you tip at a casino?
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Old 12-03-2011, 05:37 PM   #64
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what is 'comped' short for?

also, just go to another casino if unsatisfied

OH WAIT lol australiaments
"comp" is short for complimentary. "comped" is turning "comp" into a verb.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:29 PM   #65
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

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Crown Casino in Melbourne takes the following rake from the low limit games: -
  • $1/$2 - 10% capped at $15
  • $2/$3 - 10% capped at $8 plus $5ph time charge
  • $2/$5 - 10% capped at $8 plus $10ph time charge
There is no BBJ, and drinks are at standard bar prices, e.g. $2.50 for a Coke, $6+ for a beer.
Game changes as of this week:
  • $1/$2 - 10% capped at $20 ($20-$80 BI)
  • $1/$3 - 10% capped at $12, plus $5 one-off sit-down charge ($50-$200 BI)
  • $2/$4: 10% capped at $12, plus $5 one-off sit-down charge ($200-$400 BI)
  • $5/$5 - 10% capped at $10, plus $10 one-off sit-down charge ($300-$700 BI)
  • $5/$10 - no rake, $25 hourly charge ($600-$2000 BI)
Coke now $3.00 from a waitress (usually a long wait), or $3.50 if you go up to the bar in the poker room. Cannot order a glass of water from a waitress any more, small bottle is $2.

So, what does everyone think now? Try to contain your laughter.
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:08 AM   #66
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

Resorts World Singapore (the only legal poker room in the country): 5% up to $50. Games are 5/10 NLHE and up (US$4/8).
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:38 PM   #67
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

Here you go; all commissions for all Australian Casino's as of 21/11/12

Burswood Casino - $2/$5 NL Games – 10% commission capped at $15 – No charge for pots under $10
- $5/$5 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20 – No charge for pots under $50
- $5/$10 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20 – No charge for pots under $50
- $25/$50 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20 – No charge for pots under $50
Burswood does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge.

Cairns Casino Only have a $2.50/$5 NL game running – 5% capped at $25 – No charge for pots under $20
Cairns Casino does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge.

Townsville Casino
Only has a $2.50/$5 NL game running – 5% capped at $20 – No charge for pots under $20
Townsville Casino does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge.

Darwin Casino Only has a $5/$10 game running – 5% capped at $60 – No commission on pots under $20
Darwin Casino does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge.

Crown Casino
- $1/$2 – 10% capped at $20 ($20-$80 Buy-In)
- $1/$3 – 10% capped at $12, plus $5 one-off sit down charge ($50-$200 Buy-In)
- $2/$4 – 10% capped at $12, plus $5 one-off sit down charge ($200-$400 Buy-In)
- $5/$5 - 10% capped at $10, plus $10 one-off sit down charge ($300-$700 Buy-In)
- $5/$10 or above – no rake, $25 hourly charge ($600-$2000 Buy-In)

Casino Canberra 5% commission capped at $20 – No charge for pots under $20

Treasury Casino Brisbane- $2/$4 NL Games – 10% commission capped at $14
- $2.50/$5 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20
- $5/$10 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20
Treasury Casino does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge.

Jupiters Casino Gold Coast - $1/$2 NL Games – 10% commission capped at $10
- $2/$4 NL Games – 10% commission capped at $12
- $2.50/$5 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20
- $5/$10 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20
- $10/$20 NL Games – 5% commission capped at $20
Jupiter’s Casino does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge.




Sky City Adelaide All games are 10% capped at $15 – no charge for pots under $20
Sky City Adelaide does not have an hourly time charge or seat reservation charge

Star City Sydney’s commission scales; -$1/$2 NL games – 10% commission capped at $8 - $5 hourly time charge.
- $2/$5 NL games – 10% commission capped at $10 - $5 hourly time charge
- $5/$5 NL games – 10% commission capped at $10 - $10 hourly time charge.


Sydney charges commission on all pots

Wrest Point Casino, Hobart and Country Club Casino, Launceston;
$1/$2.50 NL Games - $2.50 for every $50 in the pot rounded up. No hourly charge. No cap. This is between 5% and 9.7% depends what the pot total finishes at.


Correct me if i'm wrong on any of these, but i'm pretty sure it's right.

What looks good and what looks bad now!!!!

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Old 11-21-2012, 12:24 AM   #68
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

Just to add
Wrest Point Casino and Launceston charge $1 for pots under $20


Lassiter's in Alice Springs - Does have poker but i do not know the rake for here as i have not played here..... Does anyone know it? Just to complete the list.

My Home Game - 0% commission with a $0 cap with a $0 hourly charge. 10c/20c games up to $2/$4 games. Beers are BYO. $100 Tournaments run every month with a free BBQ thrown in.

No responsible service of Alcohol policy enforced and no Responsible Gaming policy enforced. Your big enough to control yourself i think.

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Old 11-22-2012, 12:28 PM   #69
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

Its definitely not the worst in the world. I know casinos without any rake caps. AND drinks with a price double as high as those in crowns. AND entry fee into the casino. AND almost mandatory tips.

Welcome to Switzerland.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:22 PM   #70
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

commerce casino, $1 just to chop the hands pre-flop...
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:16 PM   #71
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

I only played at the Crown once in 2007. I was in a 4-8 LHE game and the dealer took 4 $2 chips for the rake. I was shocked. I commented to a player next to me that the rake was outrageous and that nobody could win.

He replied "Yes, but it's the only game in town." ROFLMAO

I played at a casino in London about 3 years ago. I sat down in a 1 pound/2 pound NLHE game. The first big pot I saw resulted in the dealer taking three 5 pound chips for the rake. That was about $22.50. I cashed out immediately.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:13 AM   #72
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

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$1/$2 - 10% capped at $15
10% capped at £10 is fairly common in the UK, which seems to be about the same.

So nothing special ouside US IMHO.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:35 AM   #73
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Game changes as of this week:
  • $1/$2 - 10% capped at $20 ($20-$80 BI)
  • $1/$3 - 10% capped at $12, plus $5 one-off sit-down charge ($50-$200 BI)
  • $2/$4: 10% capped at $12, plus $5 one-off sit-down charge ($200-$400 BI)
  • $5/$5 - 10% capped at $10, plus $10 one-off sit-down charge ($300-$700 BI)
  • $5/$10 - no rake, $25 hourly charge ($600-$2000 BI)
Coke n $3.00 from a waitress (usually a long wait), or $3.50 if you go up to the bar in the poker room. Cannot order a glass of water from a waitress any more, small bottle is $2.

So, what does everyone think now? Try to contain your laughter.
well just play 5/10 that rake is totally fine.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:53 AM   #74
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

why is sydney the only place that seems to have a timecharge in australia, its kinda annoying when the dealer says alright timecharge, also the drink service i had there last time was terrible, they had about 3 waitresses run off their feet, had to wait 20 mins just for a glass of water
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:47 AM   #75
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Re: Is the rake at Crown the worst in the world?

Casino Du Liban (Lebanon) has the highest time rake I know of:

$30/hr for 2/5 NL
$40/hr for 5/10 NL
$50/hr for 10/25 NL

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