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Originally Posted by CheatedatSun
Well aware. The post is pointless though its just nice to at least get it out in the open I guess.
I want you to know the environment you are dealing with. I am not saying you are wrong, I am not saying you are wrong to speak up. Far from it. I just want you to know what casinos employees have to deal with all of the time.
As a dealer who has never dealt a crooked hand in my life, I don't think I have ever gone more than a day or two without a player complaining how I am hurting/cheating them with bad cards. I have had players go to the floorperson on me because their aces got cracked twice. There are players who will literally get up when I sit down because they think I have it out for them because they have lost when I was dealing to them in the past.
Again, I want to make it very clear, I have always dealt honestly and have never cheated in my life.
Floorpeople deal with the same ****. Everyday they hear about some crazy beat story and have had a player insist some dealer is cheating.
Since most people have so little understanding of variance and probability, this can mostly be ignored. In my experience 99.99+ discussions of shady play have absolutely nothing to do with cheating.
What I am saying is that given the percentages, the noise overwhelmes the signal. A floorperson can ignore every cheating accusation and be right 99%+ of the time.
Furthermore let's look at incentives. Even if you have reasonable suspicions of cheating, you are asking a floorperson or manager to create work for their boss. No one likes to create work for their boss, especially when the odds show it to be overwhelmingly BS. You are asking for a floorperson to go out on a limb and accuse a dealer of cheating. This will involve a high level manager to do tons of research with video replay in order to fire someone they probably have a relationship with. No one will want to stick their neck out for that.
Even more Furthermore, as you describe it, the dealer has no incentive to cheat. You said yourself it is random. The only reason I can think of for a dealer to do this is that he deals in a private game that requires him to deal coolers on occasion, sobhe uses his public time in a casinos as a sort of practice session in dealing coolers figuring the risk is low.
Basically there isn't much you can do, even if right because it is near impossible to overcome the noise of regulars whining.
If I was in your position there is a couple of things I would do. I would pay careful attention and every time the dealer in question hand shuffled and I would loudly sit out the hand. Even if in a blind. If I am the small blind and I saw a hand shuffle I would pull my money back and make it clear I am not in the hand.
Furthermore, I would loudly explain why i am not playing the hand (because of hand shuffle). I would predict a bad beat/cooler as the cards are being dealt. This should wake up the dealer to the fact that his shenanigans are under the spotlight Furthermore other players will start to pay attention to the fact that the dealer is hand shuffling for no logical reason and if the bad beats/coolers continue they will catch on.
Basically loudly shine the spotlight on hand shuffled hands.
Last edited by JimL; 01-12-2024 at 05:29 AM.