Mis-regs who have to comment negatively about everyone's play at the table or Nits who barely play any hands?

Don't mind either as both are easy to play against.

Mis regs are worse for the table. Nits can be fine if they tell a funny story at least.

I’ve seen a supposed pro break an amazing 1-2 PLO game at the Aria over a protracted dispute over posting a small blind. The drunk spewy regs just racked up and moved on…

I cant even count how many times I have seen a miserable reg completely ruin the vibe of a great game which results in it no longer being great. Mis regs AINEC

Complainers kill poker. You will always have to deal with nits in casinos because they never get invited to home games.

Yeah, the nits can at least be engaging, keep the table light and the banter fun, even if they are tight. Don't get me wrong, there are some absolute super nits that are ALSO mis-regs too.

But for me the mis-reg who has to bitch about a bad player sucking out and correct them on their bad play, or who has to point out the nit to everyone that is playing tight, just absolutely suck any joy out of a table.

I did have on my left all night on Friday but another player was buying him drinks. As long as he was losing I was ok with him. Just pretended it was my wife and I couldn't hear him any more.

I don't mind the nits. They have zero ego, they're easy to play against, and easy to talk to. The complainers and beraters are terrible for the game outside of their tilt spew but by that time the rec fish have already been turned off.

I had something similar happen at borgata.
All night the guy was going on and on trying to talk strategy, taking about folding sets ,talking about some tournament discord group he was in then made a huge deal about the button having not moved so he would be the small blind twice. He sat out,refused to post then tried to come back in for free. He may have actually been right that the button moved but by that point it didn't matter. Half the table was drinking and it was at least a decent game. He got in an argument with the dealer,held the game up "out of principle" even when someone tried to just give him the 5 bucks and explained "I play hundreds of thousands of hands every small blind matters."
The game went from full to broken in less than five minutes.

I'll talk a pleasant nit over a mis reg any day.

A nice nit is pretty helpful when you have a bad dealer. Having nits at the table also means that you are effectively playing short-handed, which may be good for you if you have the skills.

I'm fine with a complainer if they tilt and spew money.

I am the nit so I vote for miserable regs.

I wonder who voted that nits were worse.

Mis regs are worse. Not even close

A fantastic game usually has one or two nits at the table to balance out the action of the truly terrible players. They usually know their place at the table and may even “envy” a good player’s ability to mix it up. A mis-reg might even be good, but they are so toxic and constantly giving out free advice that might even encourage bad players to tighten up. Nits are obviously much better for the ecosystem.

I agree that miserable regs are usually worse than nits, but every now and then I have found that having a single mis-reg at the table is the perfect foil for uniting the rest of the table against them leading everyone else to be friendly and outgoing to each other.

It is rare, and it does require finesse but it can make the table better.

For example, fish makes a terrible play, sucks out on mis-reg. Mis-reg starts lecturing fish on what he did wrong, etc.

Speak up and say to the mis-reg: "Hey Joe, are you whining again about how other people play with their own money? Unless you are backing him no one cares how you would have played his hand." Then turn to the fish and say "You have a choice, you can play however you want and stack chips, or you can play like he would and be miserable for the rest of your life."

A couple of comments like this generally relax the fish (keeping them bad loose passive) and unite the table against the mis-reg (while also shutting them up).

Of course this takes the right situation and the right words. Plus it has to be a mis-reg you do not mind pissing off.

Also, it is generally easier to tilt or put mis-regs in their place than it is to affect nits. Mis-regs are just miserable, so that is easy to counter with words. Nits just take up seats so it is harder to disrupt them. I have tried many times pointing out how tight nits are and how no one should give them action, but they just stay nitty and fish keep giving them money.

See, but this is the thing that mis-regs do. They point out the bad players, they point out the tight players and make comments on them.

They just generate such a negative, toxic environment, the last thing I want to do is engage them in any back and forth banter like you suggested, because it rarely works to unite the table, it just incites more negativity and creates a depressing atmosphere that absolutely kills the vibe of games.

I'm a ****ing tight-ass nit, but I try to be friendly, joke around, chat people up and generally keep the table light and having a good time. The recreationals are there to have a good time, they're away from work and just want to splash some chips around, drink a beer and ****ing RELAX after working that rat race 9-5 grind.

My job is to entertain them, so that they don't mind losing that 300 bucks to me because they think I'm an alright dude and hey, I've got three cats to feed so it's for a good cause.

But then a misreg has to open their mouth and point out how tight I play and try to go on a tirade over it, complaining that I won't straddle to 40 in a 1/2/5 game, etc. Like, just stfu and keep that negative vibe to yourself. It's bad enough we have to look at their perpetual scowls, having to listen to their toxicity just makes it so much worse

The stuff you guys are talking about is directly related to home game behaviour and the person whos probably also garbage at poker expects a manicured home game environment at the casino. It turns out when you cant cherry pick 7 players to play against you end up having a tough time when you have to play real poker. Nits make it short handed, any good player would want the table to play shorter.

I think you are missing some context here.

Again you are missing context.

If a mis-reg is going off on a fish, there is a ton of value in protecting the fish by engaging with the mis-reg. Especially if done in the right way (making the fish feel good). What is the alternative? Let the mis-reg drive the fish off? It is rare, but occasionally a mis-reg can be put in his place and loosen up the table.

Good for you. It should be the goal of every player who makes money at poker to make those who are worse than them to be comfortable and happy to be at the table.

Lots of things wrong here. One, it is perfectly possible to point out players playing tight without going into a "tirade" over it. In fact, doing it in a manner that makes the fish laugh and feel good isn't really that hard. Two, I am after the fishes money just as much as you are, so if I can educate the fish in a way that prevents them from stacking off to you the next time they are in a hand with you, it means they get to keep their money and give it to me later. My cats are just as hungry as yours.

FTR, I am not talking about helping them in a hand. I know the rules. Educating them for future hands isn't against the rules. Unfortunately it rarely works. No matter how tight you play and how much that is pointed out to the fish, they will still think you are bluffing the next time.

Also, I am not a fan of hard peer pressuring people into straddling. Like you point out, that is negative.

I'd bet most of them play as tight or tighter than you . And when it's not true you're the only person playing tighter. I'm not sure which is worse- tight guys who point out how tight other tight guys are or super tight guys who try and talk up their action. Both are pretty intolerable.

I remember once my game was pretty crazy. I was probably playing the 2nd or 3rd tightest at the table bc everyone was bat **** crazy. Of course a guy playing maybe 1/3rd as many hands as I was decided to comment on my tight play. If any of the crazy guys had said anything it would have been fine- but from him it was comical.(If I'm vpiping 30 percent , 90 percent vpip guy can give me **** for it- he's earned the right) I needled him every chance I got the rest of the night and called the clock on him twice. He also wasn't particularly quick witted so when he tried to come back at me he was just tripping on his words and embarrassing himself. If you're a huge nit then be a pleasant nice hopefully entertaining huge nit. But don't be a huge nit then act like you're action or that people playing way more than you are huge nits.