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04-06-2019 , 08:32 AM
I was playing a house game last night and at the river a player raised and I called. There was a possible flush on the board and the player was taking his time showing his cards. I said "come on you got it". The players at the table said because I said "you got it" in poker that's a fold. This became a big debate were everyone was saying that's the rule and I lost. This is a house game, of course. My cards remained in front of me on the board. Please let me know if it's really a rule if you tell someone "you got it" means you fold.

Thanks
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04-06-2019 , 08:56 AM
No, saying "come on you got it" is not a fold, nor is folding really an option at showdown. Despite being the caller, I recommend tabling your hand at showdown as opposed to waiting for the guy who you called. Ideally your opponent will not table his hand at all and you can get the pot.
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04-06-2019 , 08:57 AM
In a casino it is a rule in a few rooms where they added it to speed up showdown and stop angling jerkoffs. However in most casinos it is not a rule - you muck at showdown when you physically discard your cards and the dealer puts them in the muck. Prior to that they are live.

However, as you say, this is a home game. The rules there are whatever the players (or host) want.
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04-06-2019 , 09:00 AM
What did "You got it." mean?

Home game. Everyone but you says it's the rule.

Sounds like that's the rule in this game.
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04-06-2019 , 09:22 AM
You should probably just stay quiet at showdown, especially when giving ambiguous statements. You could have just given a description of your hand, like “one pair”, which allows him to show if he beats it and muck otherwise.
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04-06-2019 , 10:24 AM
I’m a home game whoever runs the game decides the rules imo
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04-06-2019 , 10:43 AM
In some casino's, saying anything to concede the hand at showdown has been ruled to kill your hand, as there were cases of people saying that but not discarding, then trying to claim the pot when the other player discarded and his hand was mucked. It is not terribly common, but not unheard. It is pretty nittish to try and enforce that in a home game, especially when it is clear you aren't angling (the angle usually consists of the player immediately conceding his hand while moving his cards forward as if to discard, but never releasing them. It sounds like you said it trying to get the other player to show his cards)
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04-06-2019 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
No, saying "come on you got it" is not a fold, nor is folding really an option at showdown. Despite being the caller, I recommend tabling your hand at showdown as opposed to waiting for the guy who you called. Ideally your opponent will not table his hand at all and you can get the pot.
Their terminology is incorerect (you are correct that you cannot fold at showdown), but there is a rule in some rooms that making conceding statements at showdown kills your hand.

I agree about fastrolling your hand (or instamucking it if you don't want to show your T5o that you three barrelled).
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04-06-2019 , 10:57 AM
If everyone else, including the floor/host says that’s the rule in the game, it’s the rule in that game.

There’s no magic “home game poker rules” book that you can reference to. The game is played the way the host and players decide. If there’s a rule about straights beating flushes, your T-high straight beats the other guys K-high flush.
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04-06-2019 , 11:39 AM
Thanks everyone for the replies. It appears that I wasn't wrong, but next time I'll just keep quit. The other person actually said something 1st, like you got it and I said no you got it. But I wanted to post the question as the other person didn't say anything (maybe no one heard it). Especially when everyone at the table said I lost or needed to split the pot. Once person said they were a dealer and that's the rules everywhere. I was just really surprised that would be the rule. I've only been playing for about a 1 1/2 years out of 2 years of knowing how to play and I'm sure there's rules I just don't know. I guess because I was one of the 2 outsiders (never played with most of them before, only played with 1 person and 1 other person there once) at the game and was winning. I guess they wanted to go against me. But I was thinking this on the way home that maybe home games make up their own rules, at time. If so they needed to be stated at the beginning of the game. Thanks again everyone.
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04-06-2019 , 12:06 PM
considering the phrase could be a statement or a question, i fail to see how this could be enforced.

if they said i was claiming the other player won the pot, i would counter claim that i was merely asking if the player had a flush/straight/FH/whatever beats me.
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04-06-2019 , 12:25 PM
At Showdown, you could consider a "concession" as a muck, forfeiting the pot, ONLY IF your words cause your opponent to muck.
If he still has his cards, no harm, no foul.
Turn them over.
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04-06-2019 , 08:14 PM
Shouldn't be a fold but home rules trump 'should be'.

I suggest fastrolling if someone is taking their time unless you have a reason to make them show.
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04-07-2019 , 12:08 AM
As initially described it would be pretty silly for someone to call a bet and then kill their own hand.

Its more typical as it happened where a bettor says it after being called. It can induce the caller to show and the bettor can muck without showing or .. worse .. can slow roll AND get the info on the opponents cards .. GL
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04-08-2019 , 01:12 AM
No pretty ridiculous ruling even for a home game. But it can be pretty bad etiquette to say this expression if your hand has any showdown value.

The players at most could warn you that next time it would be considered a fold, i would view enforcing nonstandard rules in a spot like this against a newcomer as abusive behavior/hosting
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04-08-2019 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jeff113
Thanks everyone for the replies. It appears that I wasn't wrong, but next time I'll just keep quit. The other person actually said something 1st, like you got it and I said no you got it. But I wanted to post the question as the other person didn't say anything (maybe no one heard it). Especially when everyone at the table said I lost or needed to split the pot. Once person said they were a dealer and that's the rules everywhere. I was just really surprised that would be the rule.
So what actually happened is
Player 1 - You got it
Player 2 - No you got it

And people are saying player 2 loses? (or splits. Splits makes more sense than loses even in this twilight zone of poker rules.)

Every time I've ever heard someone use the phrase "that's the rule everywhere" they have been wrong. Just my own sample size though.
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04-09-2019 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MMMed13
Every time I've ever heard someone use the phrase "that's the rule everywhere" they have been wrong. Just my own sample size though.
+1
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04-09-2019 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MMMed13
Player 1 - You got it
Player 2 - No you got it
They both conceded the pot. Ship it to the dealer.
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04-09-2019 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bub
They both conceded the pot. Ship it to the dealer.
I think it's becoming quite clear that a dealer made this rule up
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04-09-2019 , 05:39 PM
In a casino, "you got it" means nothing, and it's usually just a phrase used to say you have a weak hand and to encourage V to table his hand. As long as you have cards, you haven't conceded anything. In a home game though, the rules are whatever the host says they are, no matter how ridiculous they seem compared to widely accepted casino rules.
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