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Originally Posted by Sssanchito7
today in a cardroom (MTT) the player on my right lost a big pot, was on tilt and left. he still had a (very) small stack but decided to leave. The Floor removed his chips and sold that seat to someone on the waiting list. is this procedure correct?
In my humble opinion
1. that player had to be blinded-out ...
2. Chipcount is not correct at the end of the tournament...
Thank you everyone in advance for your answers
The only TDA rule that mentions disqualification is rule 71
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71: Warnings, Penalties, and Disqualification
A: Enforcement options include but are not limited to verbal warnings, one or more “missed hand” or “missed round” penalties, and disqualification. For missed rounds, the offender will miss one hand for every player (including him or her) at the table when the penalty is given multiplied by the number of penalty rounds. Repeat infractions are subject to escalating penalties. Players away from the table or on penalty may be anted or blinded out of a tournament.
B: A penalty may be invoked for etiquette violations (Rule 70), card exposure with action pending, throwing cards, violating one-player-to-a-hand, or similar incidents. Penalties will be given for soft play, abuse, disruptive behavior, or cheating. Checking the exclusive nuts when last to act on the river is not an automatic soft play violation; TD’s discretion applies based on the situation.
C: Players on penalty must be away from the table. Cards are dealt to their seats, their blinds and antes posted, their hands are killed after the initial deal, and if dealt the stud bring-in they must post the bring-in.
D: Chips of a disqualified player shall be removed from play
D is the only one that mentions removing chips from play. Even if it was a penalty that would simply mean blinding people out.
Based on the situation outlined in the OP it looks like rule 30 would apply.
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30: At Your Seat and Live Hands
To have a live hand, players must be at their seats when the last card is dealt to all players on the initial deal. Players not then at their seats may not look at their cards which are killed immediately. Their posted blinds and antes forfeit to the pot and an absent player dealt the stud bring-in card posts the bring-in. “At your seat” means in reach of your chair. This rule is not intended to encourage players to be out of their seats while in a hand.
So this would concur with your assessment of what should happen.
What I think may have happened is that the floor interpreted their behavior as “forfeiting”, which is perfectly allowed to happen since theoretically it would pose no benefit in terms of softplaying to anyone colluding.
Generally though the forfeiting can’t be implied, it has to be explicit, and it usually only happens when there is a break with last call for rebuys. I don’t think storming off in anger qualifies someone for disqualification so unless there is some information you omitted like card throwing or extreme profanity or threatening behavior, then I think the floor made a mistake here.
Actually they are lucky that it seems like the guy actually intended to forfeit and leave all his chips because that would have been really annoying to explain to the gaming commission lol