I was playing 1/3 last month. I got there right when the room opened. A middle aged gentle sat down right after I did. We waited for the table to fill up then the usual deciding the button. I looked at the guys stack and noticed he appeared to have well over the max buy in of $500. This was the first hand of the day so we're all new players.

My question is this; if the dealer doesn't say anything about it should another player say something? I said nothing because I didn't want to be that guy. He played very well and had about 2300 when he left the table.

I bring this up because of the situation and because a YouTuber I follow tried to sit down with more than table max in one of his vlogs.

If it personally bothers you there’s nothing wrong with saying something about it. In that case I would tell him directly “just in case you’re not aware, table max buy in is $500”.

Every other player has the same option if it bothers them.

Since I don't care, I wouldn't say anything. But if I did, in this situation I'd ask the dealer before the cards were dealt, "what's the max buy in?" and point at the guy's stack.

Yeah. I didn't want to be a dick but it kind of bothers me that people get away with buying in over table max. My friend says he would've asked the gentleman how much was in his stack. If it happens again and it's obvious that villain is trying to pull a fast one I will politely inform him of the rule.

If I cared, like I used to but not so much now, I would just ask dealer to what max is as if I did not know. If dealer says $500 and V is definitely over either I ask to match him or ask why I can’t or why he is over. Once you ask V will likely chip down. Of course then you have to watch if he tries to go north later.

But honestly a blogger doing it is much more big deal to me. If you are going to put yourself out there as a example please make it a good example

The volgger even said he was going to try the move before the session. Guy on his left called him out and he played stupid. He pocketed his excess chips and played his game. I don't know why he thought it was a good idea to try to buy in well over the max. But that's not as bad as the vlog by a different guy where the guy recommended angle shooting as a legit technique to add to your game.

I don't care either. However, I agree that if it does bother someone, asking the dealer what the table max is and then looking directly at the player in question is a good way to go about it. Unless you're in a weak 1/2 game, having a big stack is more of throwing chum in shark infested waters than intimation these days especially since everyone can see they didn't win it. If the video blogger doesn't know that, I'd stop following them.

One time I saw a guy who had built a stack of ~$3K by the time I sat down at a 2/5, in the next couple hours lost 3 all in flips and each time he made a weak charade of coloring his chips before shipping them, and in reality was just paying the all ins out of his pocket bag chips, keeping his $3K stack on the table. 3 times, 3 different dealers, wasn't until the 4th time the dealer said that's now allowed. He argued that nobody at the table cared "cmon it's Saturday night, we wanna play the big game!" and the table did agree, including two relatively solid players, dealer obviously didn't care and made him pay from his stack.

Another time I wasn't in the game unfortunately but a gentleman stumbled on in from the pits and put down $17K into a 5/10 with $2500 cap, and nobody said a word, as I heard it one person won most the whales money lol.

Moral of the stories when a guy who's scared to play the actual big games wants to throw money around and other good players agree it's good for the game or a clear whale walks in trying to gamble more money than he's allowed, you should probably just let it rock. Sorta immoral since I wouldn't feel the same way about a grinder doing it, but truth be told I've never seen anyone I consider good try that kind of thing, small sample size for sure though.

Also remember effective stacks, his buying in over only really affects you when you build up your stack, and even then it's only really problematic if they're better than you and sitting to your left

If you object to something, don't worry about being "that guy".

With that said, there was a time recently where I sat down over the max buy-in simply because I had no idea of a new rule and I didn't object at all when I was alerted to it.

You'll occasionally see some assclowns object or question things like this when they're told they did something wrong, but most times players will be like, "Oh, OK. No problem."

If you care say something. If you don't care then say nothing and don't post about it.

Are you a Reg? You'd probably know this guy from before and whether or not he's a 'contributor' or whatever label to put there.

It's certainly your option to speak up if you feel inclined. But you also have to remember that it's the effective stack that matters, so at least initially it's a non-issue. The problem is that you do need to address it right away or you will look really bad if you increase your stack and then want his adjusted.

I've been through this quite a few times and I've settled on an approach that doesn't directly call out the other Player but does put the Dealer on the spot.
1) "Is this a match game?"
2) "Can I add on to my stack before we start?"
3) "Did the stakes change since my last visit?"

Really any comment that seems more inquisitive than demanding, so to speak. GL


PS .. This sounds more like 'Reg privilege' than anything, not like a whale blast off. We have an interesting spot in our PLO match 2/5 game. A whale Reg rolls in and just keeps matching the stack until he wins a pot. It really sucks to win 4 out of 5 against a Player and have no chips in front of you! Not the spot you have here but a 'stack' issue as well.

I'd just add on to match him.

Agree with this 100%

The dealer should say something but often won’t bc either the player is a donator or the player tips well/has a relationship with the dealer.

This is a conflict of interest bc a good dealer should be calling this out but often won’t bc they don’t want to rock the proverbial boat.

Or they don't notice. A dealer has more things to worry about than counting unwagered chip stacks.

Been in this spot many times where my only concern is also adding to match the guy, not caring what he does.

But half the time I’m called out for adding on because I’m not the whale. At that point I ruin it for everyone out of spite.

“Oh this guy sat with $4500… I thought that was a new rule…”
Dealer - Oh, sir the max is $1000

Realize dealers have plenty to do but e are not generally talking about being $50 over when they join an active game. We are talking about sitting at a new game with $1500 at a $500 max game.

THat doesn’t take much counting to see.

At a casino I play at there is some rule where if a player buys in over the amount allowed and it’s somehow caught on camera it nullifies the bad beat jackpot. So I sometimes get called out by players for having a couple extra $1 chips, heh.

I cannot imagine the reaction of a table who's BBJ got nullified because someone bought in over limit

Is that an anomaly? Or most casinos have that rule?

I still think you are missing the walk a mile in their shoes aspect.

If the new table has a $500 max buy in and someone puts $1500 down I am quite sure that it stands out to you because you are used to only seeing $500 or less stacks. The dealer (who is more concerned about eight other things), could have just been at many other tables where $1500 stacks were commonplace so it wouldn't immediately jump out at them unless they are focused on it (which they are not).

To be fair, I am quite sure that there are dealers out there who will look the other way to regs buying in for too much, but I am also quite sure that the vast majority of the time it happens it is because they dealer simply was not aware of it, even if it was a absurd amount such as $1500 at a max $500 buy in game.

I'm not going to challenge cardsharkk's experience, but those nullification "rules" are often bullshit. The most common fake rule in the category is that alluding to the possibility of a jackpot hand while a hand is in progress will nullify the jackpot. It is repeated so often by both players and dealers that at one point, Foxwoods dealers were given the directive to loudly and decisively correct any player who implied it to be true.

Agree that one is normally BS because how is the eye in the sky going to know. But I also recall one room (but can't remember which) where such are rule about discussing the possible BBJP voiding such was specifically listed in the public rules.

It makes some sense when a BBJP is large such that any qualifying pair wants to see a flop and wants to check it down with any other potential qualifying hand to see if lightening strikes.

So that rule is real in at least one room and I suspect at least a few.

Never really delved into this too much, but my impression from talking to a few Floors is that if Gaming ever took the time to review a BBJ video they could open the 'collusion' door and create a messy situation.

I've not taken the time to request for and read the BBJ rules but perhaps I've scanned them if they were posted.

As discussed in other threads .. is a Dealer really going to 'tell' on the Players who are about to shower them with tips? One room had a 'Flamingo' Rule that supposedly nullified a BBJ if anyone used that code word during the hand.

I would imagine that there's some sort of collusion language in the promo .. getting it enforced somehow would be a surprise.

Most Players know to keep each hand as close to any other hand .. don't waffle your cards or lean in for 'extra' discussion. And holy smokes, you're looking at a BBJ opportunity, getting felted should be the least of your worries, so to speak! GL

I would just lean in very politely and make mention of it to the player himself instead of going right to the dealer.