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02-08-2023 , 04:35 PM
If everyone, including a dealer, can call string bets, then players can string bet with impunity as an angle shot in order to get a reaction. Then just call it on themselves.
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02-08-2023 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
If everyone, including a dealer, can call string bets, then players can string bet with impunity as an angle shot in order to get a reaction. Then just call it on themselves.
Are you suggesting that players be disallowed from calling string bets?

If this is a real problem, I suspect it gets handled pretty quick. First string bettor will need dealer/floor to agree it was a string or he is just bound to the whole bet/raise. Then if he continues, I would hope floor takes more direct action. From giving victim a free roll up to a ban
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02-08-2023 , 05:27 PM
The only reason to worry about string bets is if they slow down the game.
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02-08-2023 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Fore
Are you suggesting that players be disallowed from calling string bets?

If this is a real problem, I suspect it gets handled pretty quick. First string bettor will need dealer/floor to agree it was a string or he is just bound to the whole bet/raise. Then if he continues, I would hope floor takes more direct action. From giving victim a free roll up to a ban
No, I’m defending why only players in the hand should be able to call string bets. String bets can easily be used as angles if they are always called.
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02-08-2023 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
No, I’m defending why only players in the hand should be able to call string bets. String bets can easily be used as angles if they are always called.
Under your rule, someone could still shoot an angle and call a string raise on himself.
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02-09-2023 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Under your rule, someone could still shoot an angle and call a string raise on himself.
No, actually, when I dealt at a room with this rule they can’t.
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02-09-2023 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
No, actually, when I dealt at a room with this rule they can’t.
Oh... You just said only people involved in the hand could call string, not that anyone in the hand was excluded.
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02-09-2023 , 12:59 AM
True, anyone in the hand except the person that did it. I was imprecise in how I described it.

Honestly I’m probably overstating how much it could be angled in a room where anyone can call a string. Most people are not angle shooters and a floor can always override with rule 1 discretion or give a penalty. Most of the rules except betting line rules are kind of splitting hairs and can be tailored based off of what the poker room supervisors are seeing as the problematic behaviors in a player pool.
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02-09-2023 , 01:11 AM
Forcing only the player in the hand to enforce rule makes him potentially reveal strength of hand - if he calls it out, he seems weak etc. dealer should enforce and anyone should call it out
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02-09-2023 , 01:39 AM
In rooms I’ve played in the second someone string bets it gets corrected by the dealer.
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02-09-2023 , 10:58 AM
Thread's getting a lot deeper than expected.

Everyone at the table is affected by 'the wrong' amount of chips going in any direction, even in a cash game. The Dealer can't police everything as much as we'd like them to, some are weaker than others when it comes to speaking out. That's just being human .. some cops write you up for 5 over, some only 15 over gets them out of the car.

You can also run into how big of an offense does it need to be? The ole finding cash/wallet routine. If it's just $1 you pocket it and move on, if it's $100 then maybe you need to look around a bit? Guy tries to bet 15 and only gets 10 out there .. does it really affect the pot?

I preach consistency more than anything in a poker room. I will deal with whatever rules are in place, just be consistent with enforcement even if it means I get the raw end.

I play the role of Table Captain, especially in PLO games, and I've been told by more than one Player in the last 3 weeks that the games 'just run better when I'm there'. Great, Fine .. but that's not really what I want to hear. I want to hear that everyone is learning and the number of spots is reducing on a regular basis, not just when I'm around.

The room tone, the room/player pool size all effect how these things are handled. I don't think that any of us want the wild west when it comes to spots. But just like in BJ when a Player has a hunch and hits a 15 when the Dealer is showing a 4 .. sometimes it happens. GL
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02-11-2023 , 02:02 PM
What happens if there's a string bet, a call, then the caller or another player in the hand points out that it's a string bet? The more involved and time-consuming the chain of action that sets off, the better for the game it is if someone speaks up to prevent a chance of that from happening. The more likely that a mistake is to cause a floor call if discovered the later in a hand, the better it usually is for someone to speak up when the mistake first occurs.
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02-11-2023 , 07:51 PM
Depends on the limit of the game.
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