There's a few players in my room that do this but this guy is the worst.

He wears a grey hoodie, hood up, giant beats headphones on the outside of the hood, always has a scowl, never says a f*cking word. He will roam around the room with his rack, find a table, nut peddle for about an orbit, then repeat. This is at 1/2.

Last night he came to my table which should have been a bum-hunters dream. I was the best player at the table (and I'm a winning 1/2 player, but not some scary crusher), they had 1 other competent player and a semi-competent player. 8 handed, the other 4 were total fish. Also, he's on my left so he can just do his nut peddling thing and avoid me if he wants.

Even at this table, he plays 2 orbits and does the zombie walk and settles at a table where I can see at least 3 grinders at 1/3. Twenty minutes later he's at a different table.

What motivates somebody to do this at 1/2 and 1/3 (never seen him at 2/5+)?

I know players who are habitual table changer as well but I'm sorry to say it but you're not the best player at that 1/2 table if you're letting him bother you in any way shape or form ; )

What does bother me though is when they do it without asking, and if they leave my table short I'm usually the first one to report it.

I have trouble piercing those two statements together.

I understand the first part of not being bothered by the habitual table changer but then if he does it "without asking" and leaves your table short, you're reporting it immediately? Sounds a little like a tattletale in elementary school. "Mr. floorman, Mr. floorman, he did it again!".

@OP: I would just ignore him. Not much you can do. If it creates a bad vibe in the room, there's a good chance a floor will notice and approach him about it. I've seen that in the past with players who always play 2-3 hands before sitting out 20+ minutes.

I lived in vegas for a while. We had a dude like that at one of the larger rooms that I regged it up at. Everyone called him Duchebag Mike. He was always on the prowl for that perfect table. He was comically bad - just like your guy seems to be. I always found it entertaining personally.

So basically just an anti-social nit who's effectively just wasting a seat? Irrelevant, he's not getting rich off of you, just ignore

Do your rooms require posting when you sit down?

Foxwoods used to and has now stopped. So somebody may want to just avoid paying blinds by behaving like that. The behavior you describe has increased at Foxwoods as a result of their new policy. I saw a guy sit down until it was his turn to be BB and then he left.

I do think the rooms would ultimately object to this behavior if they see it happening frequently and eventually they would. But you could say something to them (assuming there is no posting) so they can deal with it.

No posting on a table change??? That is an absurd rule. Whoever changed that rule clearly did not think about it at all. I would just keep table changing on my big blind waiting for aces until I singlehandedly got the rules changed. Not really but you get my point about how bad that is.

Hell they introduced posting as a new player in bigger games specifically to prevent people from just taking a free round hoping for aces and then sitting out.

You're assuming that a table change will be infinitely available and that the floor won't call you on your bullshit.

I was actually talking about the first time a player sits down to play. We used to have to post at Foxwoods. Now we don't.

I have never had to Post on a table change (or maybe my memory is really bad on this since I haven't done it in a long time...). But in theory a player could be changing tables before they have to pay their blinds as a way of avoiding paying their blinds.

There’s a couple of guys I seen do this at borgata. That or the play one hand and sit out for 20 minutes routine. I just note they’re probably nuts chuckle and move on

Been a few years but there was this kid at my local room who would seat jump/change least once an hour. He would ask the dealer as soon as a seat he wanted opened, he was trying to get position on certain people. Did it to me, so when another seat open at table I moved again to cancel out his move. Noticed other players would do it to him to if they could. This was at 1/2 and 1/3 lol.

Very rarely would he look for a table change , but my room had the table change request chips you had to ask for then wait for floor to find open table. You could try to ask for a particular table was annoying as it slowed up games waiting for people to argue with floor at short handed tables demanding to go to the table they wanted and not a random table.

At my room you didn't have to post on a change but were asked if you wanted to post BB and dead blind to get dealt in or wait for blinds to come around. Now that I think about it, I would like to see post on table change instead.

You never have to post unless you want to be dealt in. The question is if you have to post to be dealt in or get a hand for free.

In cash games in regulated card rooms, putting money in the pot is always voluntary never mandatory. If you don't want to post a blind, you might not be getting a hand though and might be asked to vacate the seat.

That's also the reason why the penalty for checking behind the nuts on the river was strictly for tournament play. They can't force you to bet in cash games.

On top of that, strictly speaking, if you declare a call to an allin that covers you, they can't make you pay (at least in CA). The floor will convince you it's the right thing to do and ultimately bar you if you don't. But they can't make you.

The mark of a good floorman is one that can convince someone that they have to pay, without actually telling them that they have to.

That is correct in most jurisdictions actually. Chips in a cash game have cash value, unlike tournament chips. Cash value chips in a player’s stack belong to the player. Nobody can remove those chips from the stack. Chips pushed into a pot belong to the house and are awarded to the winner as per normal rules (or take as take/promo drops). This is also why in a cash game a player who is away from his seat and misses his blinds must post upon return. In tournaments, the dealer will post missed blinds for the player who is away, but this is illegal in cash games. Tournament chips have no cash value and belong to the house, so it is legal for a dealer to remove them from a player’s stack. The dealer cannot remove cash-valued chips from a stack, so the dealer cannot post blinds for an absent player.

What about lobby fees? Those are taken from a player’s stack without their permission.

I don't know what a "lobby fee" is, but back when it was a half-hour collection for seat rental, the house could (and did) take the collection from the stacks of empty seats.

In some rooms they may take a chip from walkers and put it in the pot. They used to do this at the 20/40 game at Commerce when someone got two missed blind buttons.

Interesting. Never seen or heard of that. By one chip I assume a red bird for a 20-40 game? Always 1/2 the SB?

I don't know about any other games, but yes it was $5 in the pot, I think on the second missed blind button and the third, and after that you got picked up.