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04-17-2018 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by illdonk
Even from the inside of the tank?
LOL
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04-17-2018 , 01:44 PM
Serious question: Are the people using the odds calculators and taking notes about hands and opponents ever winning players? Or are they just the detailed, ocd, meticulous types and they can also be very good? I always thought the normal good player could calculate their odds in their head in a couple seconds.
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04-17-2018 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by illdonk
Even from the inside of the tank?
Lol and yes. Especially from inside the tank. It's probably the loudest in there
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04-17-2018 , 04:22 PM
Wait a minute...note taking and needing 'odds calculators' ON A CRUISE SHIP?
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04-17-2018 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Suit
Serious question: Are the people using the odds calculators and taking notes about hands and opponents ever winning players? Or are they just the detailed, ocd, meticulous types and they can also be very good? I always thought the normal good player could calculate their odds in their head in a couple seconds.
Yeah never any good. Poker is as much art as science and those players lack that aspect for sure.
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04-20-2018 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by michelle227
Wait a minute...note taking and needing 'odds calculators' ON A CRUISE SHIP?
Those notes will be critical when you are on that next cruise in two years and those players areNOT there
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04-20-2018 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Fore
Those notes will be critical when you are on that next cruise in two years and those players areNOT there
^^^This.

You're playing at best 1/2 NLHE. Anybody who is playing anything other than loose passive is going to stick out like a sore thumb and be easily followed without having to log every hand. If you're studying your notes before the evening's game, you're doing cruising wrong.
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04-21-2018 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sharkem
I was playing a poker cash game on a cruise ship casino (where many passengers may not be familiar with typical poker etiquette.) I was using some poker apps on my phone and taking notes. It looks a little less natural to use your phone on a ship because there is no Internet and you can't text anyone.

After I had been playing for a while, an observer behind me said, "Is that an odds calculator?" I said, "Yeah," thinking he was just going to say it was cool or something. Then he said, "Do you think it's fair for you to use that?"

Before I could respond, the guy next to me said, "It's not. I already warned him." I did not realize he warned me. Earlier he said that you could get beat up in a real casino for doing that. But I thought he was talking about the dealer getting beat up because the dealer had just tabled my losing hand without permission.

Since they seemed bothered by it, I set my phone face down on my lap for a few minutes. Then between hands I picked it up for a second, and the observer behind me said, "That's it! No one else has an app that can calculate odds and percentages for them. If you keep using that, I'm going to tell the pit boss!" (There was no floor person.) I reminded him that I wasn't using my phone in the last hand I played, and then he said, "OK!" and stormed off.

Is there any validity to their arguments? My understanding was that you could use any electronic device for any reason in a cash game. Is that right? Is there really any significant risk of getting beat up for using an electronic device at a cash game in high stakes or otherwise?
Whatever the house rules are, they're gonna prevail, regardless of your opinion, logic, etc, so it pays to know Roman customs before going to Rome and then saying, "When in Rome..."

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Originally Posted by Career Ender'sGame
Don't tap the glass. Whether they're right or wrong, you're there for the money. Don't upset them. just take notes when you get back to your room, not a tragedy
Even if its allowed, this is gonna work one of two ways for OP: 1) Weak rec players who might not know a lot but know they already started off at a disadvantage are gonna feel even more uncomfortable and be less inclined to play so you won't be able to invite their chips to join your stack...bad, very bad...and 2) Maybe only a handful of utterly brave will try to take you on for the 'challenge' despite the apparent handicap. I think you have to know in advance one or two of these types is deeply bankrolled and stubborn and willing to play SH or HU...all of which are too many ifs.

In my golf and pool hustling days, I never gave a handicap that couldn't beat and more often had to play 'down' to requested handicap so that they didn't ask for a bigger one next time out.

If they're that freaked out, you already know that you could still win having to play one card face up...OP, why give away your true skill level's distinct advantage?
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04-23-2018 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Suit
Serious question: Are the people using the odds calculators and taking notes about hands and opponents ever winning players?
Odds Calc ... I will pull mine out from time to time at the table for both reassurance that I was thinking correctly or to squash a table discussion so 'we' can move on. (Only at my reg heavy tables/rooms, never when 'visiting')

Notes about hands ... I will do this from time to time so I can remember the Board and bet/stack sizing for later thought. My odds calculator stores the last 'x' hands looked at, so this is a '2 birds/stone' thing.

Notes about players ... Very rare, I will review players in my head if I'm headed to a home game or reg room. I always remember watching DNegs during The Big Game tell Barry Greenstein that he took an exact same line against a player during a HSP session and then correctly make a call with Ace high.

Having a 'scouting report' available is no different than stat/note tracking online, but it's certainly more accepted online than live. GL
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04-23-2018 , 10:41 AM
This reminds me of the guy in last year's WSOP who brought hand charts to the table and when TD told him it was against the rules he said "no, it's cool, my buddy said it's fine."
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