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Originally Posted by peanutym
yea story?
cant just leave us hanging
Sry it took so long to reply:
I was playing in a 100NL game in SoCal and it was about 5 regs and 3 guys I never played with. They were all pretty bad players, but this really solidified my reasoning for it.
A hand begins where I'm in EP I think and fold with something like 6 limpers to the flop. Flop comes K65 two spades. BB leads out for 25 into pot of 13 and gets raised all in by BTN who has him covered. Pot is now 163 as BB has ~100 behind. BB tanks for literally 2min and then mucks face up 78 spades. He had probably 15 outs twice and says "I wasn't getting the right odds to call that".
I'm slightly tilted, but ask, "But if you have 15 outs then you're mathematically ahead and odds wouldn't matter, right?" And he explained how I just didn't get it and you ALWAYS need pot odds when on a draw. I was slightly more tilted.
Another man who wasn't involved then chimes in with the money line: "You know it's impossible to have more than 16 outs in Hold'em". Half the table nods and a couple say "oh yea, I heard that. It's good to know odds".
So I proceed to start tryin to get takers on a prop bet that I can point out a situation where you can have 21 outs on a flop and 25 on the turn and nobody would bite. I shrug and tell him 22 vs JTss on a 985ssx board gives you 21 outs to beat the ducks.
A 4th man now chimes in. "No, you're double counting the straight and over cards. It's more like 14 outs now". This tilted me a lot. I tried to explain by counting each card one by one but they kept giving me a blank stare like I was speaking Mandarin.
During this whole exchange I was getting more and more tilted, and within about a 10 hand span I donk off 4 buy ins, not really paying attn. to the play just tryin to prove my point. In retrospect it could have been a tablewide conspiracy to tilt and then busto me 4 times over in which case bravo sirs, you've won this round.