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11-30-2018 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by iamthepush
If you make it to the second day of a tournament do you think your chips should only come into in play when you get there?
Different spot, but close .. OP's point is that your stack is in play 'once you choose to put it in play' ... and that's when you sit down and take your first hand. And presumably that was sometime during Day 1. Once you take a hand you're in .. and your stack stays in whether you're at the table, in the bathroom or on a smoke break.

Most venues will pull a stack, if it has survived, at the end of late registration which is normally during a Day 1, if the Player has not taken their seat as of yet.

Most of us have heard stories about stacks that actually will survive to cash in tournaments with no Player sitting in the seat. One Player in the WSOP had actually died between Day 1A and Day 2 of a tournament. I recently witnessed a Player who actually flew home for his class reunion due to building such a large Day 1 stack, his stack cashed .. .then he Final Tabled after showing up later in Day 2. GL
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11-30-2018 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by answer20
Different spot,
Oh sure, just wondering LC's opinion
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11-30-2018 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by iamthepush
Most tournaments I've seen (save wsop) give you bonus chips for pre registering.

If you make it to the second day of a tournament do you think your chips should only come into in play when you get there?
I mean, are people allowed to register on day two in your example? I'm not sure what sorta gotcha you think you just got me on...

Chips should go out at the first hand after registration officially closes.
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12-05-2018 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by iamthepush
Most tournaments I've seen (save wsop) give you bonus chips for pre registering.
Wow, I have never seen this. How common is this?
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12-05-2018 , 09:27 PM
Happens in grosvenor tournaments in UK, 15k starting stacks bonus 2k if on time
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12-05-2018 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Crispen
I mean, are people allowed to register on day two in your example? I'm not sure what sorta gotcha you think you just got me on...

Chips should go out at the first hand after registration officially closes.
In my tournament you can register until end of day 2. YOU played day 1 and are chip leader. Tournament starts at noon. Should your chips be in play even though you are in your room asleep?
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12-06-2018 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by herbalerv
Happens in grosvenor tournaments in UK, 15k starting stacks bonus 2k if on time


I think this is a great idea. Going to consider implementing this for the new year!
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12-06-2018 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Suit


I think this is a great idea. Going to consider implementing this for the new year!
Tournament players are straight up whores for extra chips. If you ran a tournament where you got 10% extra chips for being 15 minutes early in formal evening wear, you would have the fanciest tournament in history.
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12-06-2018 , 04:20 PM
Seems like the idea is to get more people in for the early levels.

Foxwoods solves the problem by offering a high-hand jackpot for level 1 of the tournament.

High hand that level gets their buy-in back.
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12-06-2018 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by iamthepush
In my tournament you can register until end of day 2. YOU played day 1 and are chip leader. Tournament starts at noon. Should your chips be in play even though you are in your room asleep?
Yes. That player has started to take hands and begun the tournament. The other guy said "Yeah I'll be there, here is my money that is guaranteed to be in the prize pool even if I don't show up. Save my seat so I don't get bumped out of being able to buy in for whatever reason, be it lack of tables or dealers.". I really don't see what this is hurting...
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12-06-2018 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by iamthepush
In my tournament you can register until end of day 2. YOU played day 1 and are chip leader. Tournament starts at noon. Should your chips be in play even though you are in your room asleep?
What are you getting at here? Not putting the chips in play, ie. having the option to pause your stack until the end of registration would be the most absurd poker thinking in this thread.
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12-06-2018 , 08:03 PM
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12-07-2018 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by iamthepush
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pete, he thinks his hypothetical situation is the same as the other. He thinks you just slam dunked his point for him.
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12-07-2018 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Crispen
pete, he thinks his hypothetical situation is the same as the other. He thinks you just slam dunked his point for him.
oh, i didn't read that. yeah, he's dumb.
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12-07-2018 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by herbalerv
Happens in grosvenor tournaments in UK, 15k starting stacks bonus 2k if on time






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Originally Posted by Suit


I think this is a great idea. Going to consider implementing this for the new year!






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Originally Posted by SpewingIsMyMove
Tournament players are straight up whores for extra chips. If you ran a tournament where you got 10% extra chips for being 15 minutes early in formal evening wear, you would have the fanciest tournament in history.

I used to host a tournament league, and we had an early bonus. For home games to run well, attendance is important.

We also had a Bring a Friend bonus, too.
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12-10-2018 , 07:03 AM
1-2 game in Atlantic City, NJ. I have TT. I believe the effective stack was somewhere around $300. Flop is 9-high. I bet, he raises (I forget the exact amounts, this was over a year ago), and I tank for a while and go all-in. He calls.

The turn is another 9 (this is after we were already all-in on the flop), and he tables a 9 for trips.

He then says to me "you should have folded on the flop when I raised."
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12-10-2018 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Suit
I think this is a great idea. Going to consider implementing this for the new year!
Double edged IMO .. works good for daytime 'dailies' since Floors can plan better for Dealers coming on shift (and the cash rake gets a bump while they wait).

But I've seen negative reception for nighttime tournaments where folks trying to get there from work are disadvantaged when regs can more easily get to the room.

Most casinos in our area stopped the practice for the larger BI events where registration opened 7 days in advance. Although I think it would still have a positive affect for Sat/Sun tournaments with cash games/pits/hotel seeing increased traffic. 3K bonus on 12K starting stack is significant enough for a poker player to consider the effort required to get to the room during the early reg window.

Obviously each room should attempt to gear any such program towards whatever they are trying to accomplish and their Players quirkiness ... GL
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12-10-2018 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
Double edged IMO .. works good for daytime 'dailies' since Floors can plan better for Dealers coming on shift (and the cash rake gets a bump while they wait).

But I've seen negative reception for nighttime tournaments where folks trying to get there from work are disadvantaged when regs can more easily get to the room.

Most casinos in our area stopped the practice for the larger BI events where registration opened 7 days in advance. Although I think it would still have a positive affect for Sat/Sun tournaments with cash games/pits/hotel seeing increased traffic. 3K bonus on 12K starting stack is significant enough for a poker player to consider the effort required to get to the room during the early reg window.

Obviously each room should attempt to gear any such program towards whatever they are trying to accomplish and their Players quirkiness ... GL
Turning Stone offers extra chips for their dailies if you are signed up 45 minutes before the start. Think it is usually an extra 2k chips (most start with 10k I believe)
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12-10-2018 , 06:11 PM
Middle stages of a low limit tourney, EP raises 3.5BB, called by the old guy on the button.

Flop is Jd, 10d, 7s.

EP goes all in for 9BB, old guy says "No guts, no glory" and calls off most of his stack. EP has Ad, Qd. Old guy has 2h, 4h.

Turn is brick, river is 2c. Old guy says "I thought we were both drawing, I felt luckier". He looked like he believed it too.

Last edited by irishimi; 12-10-2018 at 06:23 PM. Reason: typos
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12-12-2018 , 05:08 PM
Early in the session, funplayer is talking about how he just won 300 on roulette, s***reg chimes in that "poker is the only game in the house you can beat" and that "playing roulette is dumb, it's a losing game with a massive house edge"...both true, but this funplayer obviously was just here to have a good time, doubt he wants to here that he's dumb for playing roulette

Fast forward a few hours, funplayer is long gone, s***reg is still there, same seat, down a couple buy-ins, slouched over like a bum, down to presumably his last buy-in as he hasn't topped off, takes a beat with QQ when an A flops, check/folds immediately while mucking face up, curses his luck, typical s***reg stuff, etc. He's down to about 100 now (playing 2/5) and says he's ready to leave and for someone to call him, starts shoving all-in blind and it only takes 3 hands until someone calls and beats him

Now I don't know of the exact odds, but I'm pretty sure he'd have better odds with his last 100 at the roulette table
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12-14-2018 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by football0020
Early in the session, funplayer is talking about how he just won 300 on roulette, s***reg chimes in that "poker is the only game in the house you can beat" and that "playing roulette is dumb, it's a losing game with a massive house edge"...both true, but this funplayer obviously was just here to have a good time, doubt he wants to here that he's dumb for playing roulette

Fast forward a few hours, funplayer is long gone, s***reg is still there, same seat, down a couple buy-ins, slouched over like a bum, down to presumably his last buy-in as he hasn't topped off, takes a beat with QQ when an A flops, check/folds immediately while mucking face up, curses his luck, typical s***reg stuff, etc. He's down to about 100 now (playing 2/5) and says he's ready to leave and for someone to call him, starts shoving all-in blind and it only takes 3 hands until someone calls and beats him

Now I don't know of the exact odds, but I'm pretty sure he'd have better odds with his last 100 at the roulette table
I hope you told him that. This is one spot where it's totally fine to berate the fish.
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12-17-2018 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by football0020
Now I don't know of the exact odds, but I'm pretty sure he'd have better odds with his last 100 at the roulette table
You know the easy odds ... red/black is basically 50-50. That's way better than ATC v multiple 'selective' hand holders.

Playing a specific spot is basically 37-1 (2.7%) , so that's pretty bad when one of the worst spots in poker (XaXb v XcYd) is double that at 5.8%. BUT ... playing a roulette spot is a guaranteed 'implied odds' spot whereas getting paid when you Flop a set is not guaranteed by any means!! So perhaps even in this case roulette has an edge too! GL
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12-17-2018 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
You know the easy odds ... red/black is basically 50-50. That's way better than ATC v multiple 'selective' hand holders.

Playing a specific spot is basically 37-1 (2.7%) , so that's pretty bad when one of the worst spots in poker (XaXb v XcYd) is double that at 5.8%. BUT ... playing a roulette spot is a guaranteed 'implied odds' spot whereas getting paid when you Flop a set is not guaranteed by any means!! So perhaps even in this case roulette has an edge too! GL
Uh, it's 37:1 to hit but they only pay you 35:1

Red/Black they pay you even money, but you only hit ~47.5% of the time.
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12-18-2018 , 01:45 AM
just take the first third on the roulette wheel. same as shoving and getting 2 callers but way better odds. roulette rake on a $300 is a pot little worse than poker but you're way more likely to win.
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12-24-2018 , 09:45 AM
So, we all know online poker is rigged but you ever wondered why?

It's because tournament fields have thousand of players but they can't run a tournament for days, it needs to be over in eight hours so they to get people out they let the chip leader win 95% of the time.

But it's still fair. Everyone has an equal chance of winning but poker pros understand how the software works so they have a more equal chance.
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