Are there better ways to stack him? V seems to have called a shove with 5% equity. Whether that works online or not is irrelevant.

At 1/2 live I once watched a player accidentally flip over his 5high flush (4 to the flush on the board) OTR before V acted. He then called a rather large bet because he had a flush. It didn't matter that it was the 3rd lowest flush possible (there was a lower card on the board), all he was thinking was that he had a flush.

By in large, players at 1/2 live are really bad

So you're saying it's a bad line except against the players he is actually playing?

Well, if the opponent would call a jam on the river at the same frequency as he would on the turn, then by checking back turn and jamming river, you could not jam on an A river, so you could avoid losing your remaining stack the 5% of the time the river is an A.

And any time a straight or flush card comes he might not commit.

Take the strategy talk to French BBV.

All I'm saying is that he played face up and could've taken a better line, which would work more often. I've played plenty of live 1/2 games in the past where people (nits) folded overpairs face up just because the board paired. I made quite a bit by bluffing those spots. Just depends on the game you're in I guess.

Guy is in the middle of telling me every bad beat story he's ever had when he says "this one hand I had Aces it goes 20,call, call, call, I call" I go "no reraise?" He looks at me dumbfounded and says "it was raised for me". Tells me the flop comes QQ3 and he calls off his stack vs a bet a raise and shove in front of him and says "if someone called preflop with Q6 so be it"

I hate to comment on posts like this in the absurd thinking thread but I can't help myself.

A guy turns his cards over with action to come, calls a bet, yet you're commenting on the posters line. Gtfo.

Absolutely you can. If you triple barrel bluff and pull a miracle runner runner inside gutter for the nut straight and your opponent flopped top set or something. That's a cooler.

That's a cooler for your opponent.

Negative IMHO ...

... A Cooler is when player's have basically equal hands at the high end of their range. Like when 2 hands are basically in a 'no fold' position like Set v OESFD. AA v KK PF, Set over Set, Top straight v Middle straight, Flush over Flush are also Cooler spots.

... What's being referred to above, IMHO, is a Suck-Out. A Suck-Out is when a completely dominated hand pulls out victory. A Cooler can turn into a Suck-Out ... see AA v KK with K on the Board.

Most Suck-Outs typically have 'bad poker' attached to the V but in the case of a Cooler or a hand with a decent draw that might still be a Suck-Out but not bad poker.

Runner-Runner 'anything' is definitely a Suck-Out .. period. (And most likely never a Cooler.)

The hand I have trouble with is like A8 Flopping 2 pair v AK. Is that a Cooler and a Suck-Out? Or neither? I don't really think it's a Cooler, but it is a Suck-Out whether on the Flop, Turn or River.

I think you need to drag pot odds into your definition as well and not just 'outs'. So A8s v AK is certainly not a Cooler when played for 10bb in a limped pot, but it's still a Suck-Out.

These phrases are wide open for discussion for sure .. GL

I mean this will all the love in the world, but would you nits GTFO with this cooler debate.

While waiting for a tournament to start a guy in front of me (I am a dealer) said to anyone who would listen "I don't know why I bought in on time. Really the best thing is to buy in at the last possible moment because there's no way you can get knocked out early if you haven't bought in yet."

I didn't know if I was gong to make it to a tournament or not but I told my buddy to put me in the 'last longer' anyway. So I late reg and the line is huge. I'm like the 2nd to last player into the field and finally sit with 25bb. I was one of only 5 left in the last longer pool that started with 32! GL

Step 1: enter last longer pool
Step 2: late reg at last minute
Step 3: immediately win last longer pool

Standard

Sometimes the best strategy is not to play at all.

I often feel that way after an evening of PLO.

My experience playing PLO has been:


**** hand, fold.
**** hand, fold.
**** hand, fold.
Watch donkey win with 1 pair.
**** hand, fold.
Watch $1000 pot to donkey with bottom set and no re-draw on a 4-straight board because no other donkey has T-any to scoop.
**** hand, fold.
KK-double suited, call $10 pre. Flop top-set+FD, get $200 in 3 ways, lose to runner runner straight.
Rebuy.
**** hand, fold.
**** hand, fold.
**** hand, fold.
AAKT-doublesuited OTB, facing an open, a call, a pot, and a call. Jam $200 and get called 4-times. Lose to KJ22 rainbow with a bottom set.
Repeat.

Not Real!

Why oh why can't it be 2009.

Definitely made up. Definitely funny.

Mine has been pretty simple:
When I want the board to pair, it doesn't.
When I don't want the board to pair, it does.

I pretty much suck at PLO and I don't blame that fact on the above truism, but it certainly doesn't help.

lol not made up

Originally Posted by Dominic View Post
1/2 at the Orleans in Vegas.

if there is fiction in the post...it is right here

Someone tell him The Orleans doesn't spread 1/2 no limit!