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01-20-2016 , 08:01 PM

#5476

MJ88

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Originally Posted by Illmatikk

Is this the absurd thinking you've heard, or is this what you think?

This is correct live play etiquette. You either chop, or you don't.

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01-20-2016 , 09:09 PM

#5477

ZOMG_RIGGED!

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Originally Posted by MJ88

This is correct live play etiquette. You either chop, or you don't.

Unless you both have jackpot hands and then you both check it down

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01-20-2016 , 11:37 PM

#5478

Illmatikk

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Ah my bad didn't see the post on the last page

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01-21-2016 , 09:29 AM

#5479

johnny_on_the_spot

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Originally Posted by Biggle10

Ok, I think I'm dumb. What is the absurd thinking here?

You guys all missed the absurd thinking... See bolded

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Originally Posted by rickroll

I just witnessed a hand a month ago where the sb offered to chop with the bb. The bb said she wanted to play because she had a good hand.

So sb looks at his cards and does a typical raise she insta shoves all in and he calls. She shows JJ and sb had AA. She sat there stunned for a while as she busted and then took a walk of shame away while the table just talked about karma.

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01-21-2016 , 09:59 AM

#5480

DC2LV

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Originally Posted by Benat

Of course they do! Why do you think they advertise the roulette history's? I would bet over 3/4 of the worlds population think this.

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Originally Posted by W0X0F

...and at least that many think that you make a plural by adding 's.

ROFL

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01-21-2016 , 12:04 PM

#5481

Kurn, son of Mogh

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Originally Posted by ZOMG_RIGGED!

Unless you both have jackpot hands and then you both check it down

Not if the jackpot has a minimum pot size.

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01-21-2016 , 12:11 PM

#5482

*Ocho 1*

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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh

Not if the jackpot has a minimum pot size.

Where I play there needs to be $10 in the pot.

so if there's $4 in the pot & the board looks like there may be a high hand out there, one guy will bet just $5, basically telling the other to just call so the min. is in the pot.

it's a common understanding where I play at.

(& usually the guy will give the $5 back to the other guy, if not a little more)

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01-21-2016 , 02:25 PM

#5483

johnny_on_the_spot

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Do you guys really think if 2 people have FH+ (some places quads+) that they're going to check down a limped $4 pot?!? Come on...

And lol @ having a hand that good and calling a river $5 bet. No wonder these morons suck at the pokerz

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01-21-2016 , 02:31 PM

#5484

Angrist

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.... and this is why teh pokerz will always be profitable.

While I could see some people checking 2 streets with a jackpot hand like 66 on a 664 board because "what the hell else has anything?" .... there's no way in hell a $5 bet OTR isn't getting raised, and then re-raised. The money's going in.

Also, if you're going to chop, just ****ing chop. It's not worth the "I have a BBJ hand, do you?" looks and wait. Hell, I don't even look at my cards if I'm in a chop situation.

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01-21-2016 , 03:01 PM

#5485

albedoa

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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot

Do you guys really think if 2 people have FH+ (some places quads+) that they're going to check down a limped $4 pot?!? Come on...

This literally happened at Foxwoods not too long ago fyi. It was a hand between a man and a woman in a fixed limit game. I'm failing hard at search right now.

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01-21-2016 , 04:17 PM

#5486

Kurn, son of Mogh

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Originally Posted by albedoa

This literally happened at Foxwoods not too long ago fyi. It was a hand between a man and a woman in a fixed limit game. I'm failing hard at search right now.

I heard that, but I thought it was Mohegan. I think it was a straight flush vs quads. The minimum pot had to be $20. A bet and a call would've gotten it there.

bad enough at Mohegan, but at FW it would've been a 6 figure brain fart.

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01-21-2016 , 05:02 PM

#5487

albedoa

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Ah yes, thank you. Helps to have the right casino when searching. The jackpot was pretty large:

http://poker.mohegansun.com/2013/08/...ame-a-bad-beat

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01-21-2016 , 08:13 PM

#5488

johnny_on_the_spot

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Originally Posted by albedoa

This literally happened at Foxwoods not too long ago fyi. It was a hand between a man and a woman in a fixed limit game. I'm failing hard at search right now.

Congrats, you found 1 instance out of the many many many times it doesn't happen and isn't reported on.

And considering the clientele at low stakes limit games, the blue hair probably couldn't read their cards to realize they had the bottom end straight flush

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01-21-2016 , 08:34 PM

#5489

ReidLockhart

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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot

You must not have played enough live poker to see the ol' "Why should I bet? He probably didn't have anything anyway?" or the "I was hoping you'd bet!" move (after flopping quads and checking three streets out of position) frequently enough to understand that it actually happens. Just because you personally can't fathom ever making such poor poker decisions doesn't mean your opponents do. Maybe you have the problem of assuming everyone thinks like you do? You can leave a lot of money on the table with that sort of mindset

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01-21-2016 , 10:48 PM

#5490

djj6835

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Originally Posted by Angrist

I just lie and say I don't have one even if I do.

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01-22-2016 , 12:20 AM

#5491

albedoa

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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot

Do you guys really think if 2 people have FH+ (some places quads+) that they're going to check down a limped $4 pot?!? Come on...

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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot

Congrats, you found 1 instance out of the many many many times it doesn't happen and isn't reported on.

Wait are you really getting defensive over this? I'm sharing a documented case with you in the most appropriate place possible, not pushing you onto the sword you've apparently propped up for yourself. Leave me out of your struggle please.

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01-22-2016 , 04:13 AM

#5492

MTT_9797

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Originally Posted by MJ88

This is correct live play etiquette. You either chop, or you don't.

Disagree. Especially when there is session fee and no rake. If I have AA I ain't chopping! If I have A9s on the BB I ain't chopping! Either fold the $2 or play. What the hell does etiquette have anything to do in a game where is sole purpose is to take each other's monies.

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01-22-2016 , 04:44 AM

#5493

volcano41

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I dont chop. I think it makes more sense to fold small blind.
Btw this is what I think.

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01-22-2016 , 09:56 AM

#5494

Kurn, son of Mogh

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Originally Posted by djj6835

I just lie and say I don't have one even if I do.

At Foxwoods, talking about the bad beat during a hand can make the hand ineligible.

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01-22-2016 , 10:09 AM

#5495

MJ88

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Originally Posted by MTT_9797

Well, it definitely is established etiquette. If you choose not to follow it, it's your choice, just like any other rude behavior.
You must be a joy to play with....
Incidentally, this attitude is EV-.
GL.

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01-22-2016 , 10:14 AM

#5496

albedoa

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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh

At Foxwoods, talking about the bad beat during a hand can make the hand ineligible.

Really?! More than one FW dealer has told me they have been instructed to loudly correct any player who makes that claim.

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01-22-2016 , 10:27 AM

#5497

Kurn, son of Mogh

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Originally Posted by albedoa

Really?! More than one FW dealer has told me they have been instructed to loudly correct any player who makes that claim.

OK, maybe that's the case, but better to be safe than sorry.

On a really nitty technical note, isn't discussing the bad beat during a hand an OPTAH violation.

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01-22-2016 , 10:37 AM

#5498

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I think it's considered collusion isn't it, which I suppose is a form of an OPTAH violation.

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01-22-2016 , 04:02 PM

#5499

andrew12341231

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Originally Posted by MJ88

I've been playing live poker since MM boom and this is the first time I'm hearing about chop etiquette.

I don't ask for chops in the SB.

When I'm in BB, I've looked at my cards before action is OTB. If offered a chop when I have a good hand, I decline, and if I have rags, I accept.

I don't believe this to be bad etiquette, and would have zero opposition if anyone else were to do that. It isn't an angle, and it isn't unethical in any way.

If you are the type of person who thinks this is "rude".....

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01-22-2016 , 04:10 PM

#5500

Angrist

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I don't really care if you choose to chop or not, or decide to do it based on position/cards. I just find it surprising you've played 13 years and never noticed this convention of etiquette.

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