LOLZ

Actually, she kinda looked like that.

Great stuff.

Thaks for that! Great laugh after a long day!

:LMao

So I was playing 2/5 NL last night. I wasn't in the hand but it made me smile.
couple limpers and a blind. 1074 with 2 's limper bets 10 blind calls turn 10 limper bets 20 blind calls. river 7 blind checks limper bets 30 blind snap calls. limper shows Q5 for missed flush draw. Blind flips over 24 and says "oh im playing the board".

I don't think he was thinking much of anything. lol

I swear to you its the juicyest 2/5 game ever.

solid fold. He was probably out kicked!

In limit, once a pot is HU, you have a lot of control over the pot size. Post flop it is possible to put in 10 big bets. The absolute most AA is worth is 5 big bets, but AA put in all 10. Most mistakes in LHE cost you a small fraction of a bet when you view the action against a range. This mistake cost about 50 times a typical mistake. It is utterly and completely absurd.

The only thing he could have done worse is to fold AA somewhere along the way.

At 1-2NL table recently....girl says"Oh no...I would never raise A 10 offsuit,but I would call any raise with it."

Same thing happened to me today. Four flush on board, it goes check check, I bet the pot with no flush, guy calls with the 8 to make the flush. If you would call a big value bet with that 8 why not bet yourself?

I actually highly prefer calling with the 8 to betting it if he thinks you'll bluff at it. If he bets, he folds out everything worse and gets called by everything better - that is, he's bluffing. If he c/c, he's getting you to bluff some of your range so he gets value from some worse hands, and you'll still bet your better hands, so he can lose less than if he had b/c (which would be terrible) and still gets a showdown, which he wouldn't if he b/f. In fact, I think betting that 8 high flush would be one of the worst moves he could make, unless he's got damn good reason to think you'll call with worse.

I agree with Jaconda

Depends on the player, but most people are willing to bluff into 4 flush boards, then bet for value. If I believe that the guy will bluff more often will def check call with mid flushes.

Have called someone down for a huge river bet with a 3 high flush before, knowing his bluffing range was huge, so it is a value bluff call, not a bet that could be re-raised and much harder to call

Most commonly heard - when I standard c-bet with nothing, get called, and it checks down:

"WHY would you EVER bet there???!"

It was my pleasure bumping this lovely thread.

Umm... Seriously? Bet with the eight, and the only thing that calls you is a hand that beats you. However, check with the eight, and induce a bluff that you can snap off. Sounds to me like you got outplayed.

Cbloom's post made me remember this example of brilliant 'poker reasoning' from a party last summer. 9 handed SNG, slow structure, $20 buy-in; after about 2 hours I'm 2nd in chips and 3-handed with two recreational players who don't like me because I raise hands and am a Yankee fan (we're in Massachusetts). They want to quit playing and drive home so I request a deal. They say no. A few hands later one of the guys gets mad at me for folding to his raise. "We want this game to end, and you keep folding. How can the game end if you keep folding? Just go all in!" The other guy agrees. I remind them that I offered a DEAL, which would END the tournament. They say no, that's not poker. Poker is gambling; it's not about making deals. So here I'm offering them an out to go home, and they keep blaming ME for prolonging the tournament.

About 10 minutes later I fold to a shove and get berated again. By now some wife comes over and harasses her husband; let's go, we need to leave. He blames me for folding too much. I tell her that I've proposed a chop so she badgers him to take the deal. It takes her ten seconds to see the logical connection between, "accept deal" and "go home." Feel so bad for the dude because when she started ripping into him his shoulders just sank and he transitioned into a robotic I've been here before stop nagging me mode. His buddy proposes, as he's done about every single hand for the past hour, to just go all in blind. I said - look, you both want to go home. I'm trying to do you a favor, I'm happy to play here all night. The prize pool is $180, we'll split it up according to our chip stacks. So you, I point to the guy whose wife is there, are first in chips, and you'll end up with like $80 (whatever it was). I'll even chop with you, other dude, and take $50 home. I'm taking the worst of it as I'm 2nd in chips, not third. They both yell NO, THAT'S NOT POKER, LET'S JUST GO ALL IN BLIND NEXT HAND! STOP NEGOTIATING! One guy mutters something about being a cheap Jew (I'm Italian).

I finish 3rd by shove busting aq into k4, winning $40, and they immediately chop. So it's not exactly 'poker thinking,' as they weren't explaining their logic during a hand, but they were trying to figure out a way to end a tournament early without violating the dictum of poker, TO GAMBLE, and then after I bust they chop anyway.

TOP PAIR IS TOP PAIR.
I had to hear this from some donkey that called a $80 preflop raise into a $35 pot at 2/5 game, flop was 3,7,8, I bet $100 with my QQ, he raises me $150 more, I know he has a weak hand so I put him all in for $780 more, he says TOP PAIR IS TOP PAIR I call with J8o, just to river a Jack. So I had to belittle like PH would have, I told him next time he needs to yell "BINGO".

Maybe they just don't chop with jews.

your story makes no sense and is made up, or you're to stupid to realize you were being teamed up on so they could split 1st and 2nd.

if they both wanted to go home, and or just go all-in blind, why didn't they do it themselves? They obviously had to be working together if they weren't playing against each other, just you.

I was playing at a casino in Central City, Colorado. 2-5 spread limit. Two regulars, a woman and her know-it-all boyfriend, are at the table. I get pocket aces, and raise it up to 7. The woman calls, and I bet all the way to the river. She shows a pair of sevens, and I take the pot.

Her boyfriend asks, “What are you doing?” She says, “I’ve been watching him, and didn’t think he played pocket pairs.”

He says, “Maybe that’s the first time he had a pocket pair.”

He was correct.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of collusion, though I doubt it. Both players were just random pick-ups at a party and didn't really know each other. A few times in the tournament they had come close to eliminating one another. It was fairly obvious that neither one liked me, which is why they wouldn't agree to a chop, and that they didn't want me to place first or make out in a deal. So collusion, probably not; stubbornness and dislike, yes. I just found it funny that their reason for NOT chopping was, "that's not poker," but that they wanted the game to end as soon as possible, when chopping would've accomplished that.

Thanks for enlightening me, though.

got into an argument with a guy who insisted AK was a 60/40 favorite over 66. Hilarious

This guy at an underground game I go to was sure that a pocket pair was at least 70% vs two overcards when all in preflop. I just let it go to not tap the fish tank, but him and this other guy almost got in a fight over it lol

Yeah, this thread is definitely full of absurd poker thinking.

Why?

Overcards are a 3:1 favorite.

[x] Jaconda is good at teh pokerz

Playing 1/2 in St. Maarten. I bet about $50 into an $80 pot on the river and get called by a guy after the river gives him a gutshot DRAW. Apparently thought sixth street would be kind to him.