I'm curious....when a player is 3 betting a lot, is it bad etiquette to ask to see their hand if it goes to showdown even if you're not in the hand? It is incredibly valuable information, sucks to lose it cause of etiquette.

Ya. Don't do that.

The player who turns his chair around and leans over the back of the chair.

Not only does he take up 50% extra space, he puts his elbows on the edge of the table, his hands on the table, and no one can see his cards or chips.

Bad etiquette and contrary to the purpose of the IWTSTH rule. The purpose of the rule is to allow you to see the hand to prevent collusion.

You want to see the hand to gain info that you have no right to have. You want to know what I'm 3 betting with? Then call me and go to showdown.

Legit if you're getting a massage though.

Actually, it's completely in line with the purpose of the IWTSTH rule - a rule that has nothing to do with collusion.

Come on man, you've been here since 2002 - you should know this!! This misunderstanding is so well resolved that I think it's even in one of the stickied FAQ threads at the top of the forum ...

Player has $105 in $5 chips and 8 $100 bills. Someone bets $100 and he calls in $100 worth of red chips.

Yeah, feel free to turn the chair whatever direction you want to get a massage when you're at an empty table.

People who announcing their bets in limit games. "I'll bet $8". Gee thanks, had no idea what you could possibly bet on the turn in a $4/$8 game. What's worse is the people who ask how much the bet is.

Or people who take >5 seconds for a decision in limit. Seriously, hope you all die. There's $100 in the pot and you're tanking about an $8 bet with top set cause the flush got there? Cool...

If you can't tell I played limit yesterday and wanted to kill myself.

People who play low-limit LHE are a pet peeve of mine.

I walk by the 3/6 games all of the time, and see people with absolutely ginormous chip stacks that are all white ("I have been sitting here for fourty-six hours, and have made five whole stacks of white chips! herpaderp!). I facepalm every single time, and wonder how they can even sit at the table without falling asleep.

The other week, some old dude told me that he had lost about $3000 over the month playing 3/6 limit. I couldn't help but laugh, and ask "did you lose every single pot you were in while all of the bets were capped on every single street?" He didn't find it as funny as I did.

Then again, most people who play LL LHE are 80+, and I'm generally annoyed by them anyway. lol


This isn't to say that I have any disdain for LHE. Limit is a great game, just not for anything less than 10/20.

people who: say "good bet" and immediately fold, stack their chips in multiple short stacks or one tall one, people who buy in for <100 bbs, say "good luck all in", min re-raise pf with big pairs.

^ I know it's probably been mentioned a thousand times already in this thread, but I hate the "good luck all in" comments as well. At my local casino, there is usually 4-5 games of 1/2 going on a a typical Wednesday night, and if someone goes all in (usually for like $160 bucks) people from tables across the room will start yelling "good luck all in!" Who gives a ****, it's less than 200 bucks. Pay attention to your own table. God, I'm bitter.

I love it when people in the hand say "good luck all-in" then proceed to bitch about getting outdrawn.

"Good bet" is an annoying one. What they're really saying is "I don't think you have anything, but I'm folding anyway." But if they really believed that, they'd call.

I think what they're saying is "I have nothing, but just in case you also have nothing I want you to think I have something but I'm on to you and going to let you slide this one time"

1. Players who blame dealers for the outcome of a hand.
2. Dealers who take credit for the outcome of a hand.

Omg this +1000000

So many ****ing dealers are guilty of this. They bitch about people blaming them then say **** like "He gets it with QQ v AA and I BRING HIM a Q on the river.

You can't have it both ****ing ways.

Player thats 6 patron shots in that thinks he's impressing the cocktail waitress as he plays 1/2 and tipping $1 while THINKING he's flirting with her when in fact she's just doing her job

When a straddle rock is brought into the game and the person who wins it hordes it, meaning doesn't play or sell it. My fave tho is when these fools are anti-straddle and think they are "getting" us LAGtards who want to play with a rock by refusing to put it back into the game.

The last time that happened we just bought like five more. if you don't want to play it fine, but don't be a douche and refuse to sell the rock to someone who will.

I'm going to defend the "good luck all-in" comment and I'll explain why I use it.

Around the poker table I'm sure we can all agree it's advantageous to have people like you. It's especially true when you get someone that likes you to check behind a monster because you're "buddies" or soft play you when they catch a miracle card because you just became friends. This happens all the time.

When someone is all in and you're not in the hand but physically close to them saying "good luck all-in" is basically telling them you're cheering for them and builds friendship.

So why can't you do that to the guy that's NOT all-in? Well, sometimes you can, but other times it comes off as weird to just start cheering for someone you don't know to take all the chips off of someone else you don't know. But it's NOT as weird to say it to a stranger that's all in. Just social convention I guess.

I don't care who wins a pot I'm not involved in, but if I sense an opportunity to build a rapport with someone I'll take it.

To that same affect, I've never VERBALLY disagreed with a stranger's poker analysis of a hand. "Yeah, 67 suited is a good hand to call 850bb's with, I mean you can catch a straight or a flush!"

Many of the posts in this thread are the exact reasons why the game continues to dry up. As winning players, we should be seeking to promote a great experience for all. When saying things that keep the game pleasant are "pet peeves" of yours, we have a problem. Saying "nice hand" or "nice play" to obvious setups or not good plays are absolutely fine, as is saying "good luck" to an all-in.

My pet peeves are the polar opposite. The only pet peeves that I have are miserable people who constantly berate others (either loudly or under their breath), whining, and discussing strategy at the table. Take these three aspects away, and you'd find that games are a lot more loose, profitable, and enjoyable. That's not a bad trio.

When somebody orders something that looks good and u want some now, or u order something and everyone wants to know what it is because they want it now

Whoever made the rules of your game with respect to the rock is not very bright. The rock should be (a) a forced blind from the normally UTG player -or- (b) either (a) or a button straddle. If the player forgets to use it one of those two times after he/she has had the opportunity to do so, then he/she loses it and it goes into the next pot.

Yah, not going to argue that one but some casinos allow a forced straddle game to start? Where I play there is no forced straddle allowed and if someone introduces a rock, players who win it are not required to play it. It just acts as a larger denomination chip.

So this is a casino where the house juices a random pot with a "rock" and then doesn't require anyone to use it? Or is it a casino where a player puts a different-color chip or whatever into a pot and then hopes that other players will use it as a straddle? Either way, it doesn't make much sense to me, but maybe I'm missing something.