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08-19-2011 , 05:26 AM
Since everyone seems to love to criticize Jared's play I figured I'd go over all the hands in the hand replayer.

Episode 1:
Hand 14 - Makes a good fold OTB with ATs.
Hand 15 - I would have loved a turn c/r with QT on the 3J92 board after Vanessa fires the second bullet. I think it gets a ton of credit this early in the session. That being said, folding is better than calling.
Hand 19 - I actually like checking back the flop. I thought Prahlad might c/r you here anyways since your hand looks like 99-JJ. The turn is a super standard call though that you didn't make.
Hand 28 - A good spot to 3bet here preflop with KQo after an open and a call even though the open is from UTG. Calling is fine too. Hand is played fine post flop.

Lots of correct folds throughout the first 32 hands that many other LCs made mistakes in.

Episode 2:
Hand 33: J8o limp in the CO is bad. Raise or fold, both are fine.
Hand 37: Not a fan of defending A9o vs Cassettes UTG open and Barry short stack UTG+1 call, even though it was the best hand.
Hand 55: This is a terrible defend that lots of amateur players make, but Jared makes the disciplined lay down of JTo in the BB vs MP open.
Hand 58: 2nd pair with a backdoor flush and straight draw is certainly good enough to call a cbet. A call or raise here would be fine.

Episode 3:
Hand 76 - Open the 64s instead of limping and folding in the CO
Hand 83 - I like flatting here more than raising since you have two people behind you and can get more money in the pot with a huge draw. You hand + image is good enough to make a raise on the turn and still have FE from a lot of better hands that still bet the turn. Raising is ok too though.

Episode 4: No specific hands to talk about here, but you are supposed to gambool here more, and some opportunities present themselves where you could easily spew, but you don't. I think you play very well in this episode, but unfortunately it is mainly making good folds.

Episode 5:
Hand 125 - After you get 3bet by Vanessa and you have A2o OOP, you should either 4bet or fold. Since it is pot limit pre flop a fold is best imo.

So I count 6 blatant mistakes, a few missed opportunities to take more aggressive lines, and a bunch of correct plays albeit most of them folds.

Analyzing your session hand by hand makes it more obvious how limited your spots were in this session. You didn't really make any hands, and a lot of hands you could have played got shut down with preflop 3bets. Many people would mistakenly get impatient and start calling with ATs or worse when they've been card dead. I thought Jared overall did well. I think he looks worse playing on TV than he did in the replayer.
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08-19-2011 , 06:47 AM
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Analyzing your session hand by hand makes it more obvious how limited your spots were in this session. You didn't really make any hands, and a lot of hands you could have played got shut down with preflop 3bets. Many people would mistakenly get impatient and start calling with ATs or worse when they've been card dead. I thought Jared overall did well. I think he looks worse playing on TV than he did in the replayer.
I agree w/ this sentiment for the most part. I'm not convinced Jared did well given the format but overall fundamental wise he did ok. Also think KyddDynamite is pretty spot on about the hands, save for a few mistakes in regard to Jared's position in a few hands (the hh replayer was prob wrong).

The only other 2 hands that were errors were folding A5s utg after he was about to open (seems like Selbst talked him out of it) and not betting KT on the river. Also he needs to run it once.

Those that bash him for not owning up to his mistakes are wrong...I went through his Big Game session w/ him recently and he was very receptive to all the criticism I was dishing out. He was all ears and I can tell he was making an effort to realize his mistakes and learn from them, and as poker players that's a great quality to have.
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08-19-2011 , 01:37 PM
i'm way behind and dont know anything about how you got on the show, etc... op was tl/dr. cliffs please. i thought you had to win some freeroll to get on the show?
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08-19-2011 , 03:22 PM
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i'm way behind and dont know anything about how you got on the show, etc... op was tl/dr. cliffs please. i thought you had to win some freeroll to get on the show?
You don't have to win the freeroll you just have to make top 100 or something like that. Many people argue he got chipdumped during the freeroll. The more accurate thing to say is that many people who knew him already ended up softplaying him and maybe chipdumped here and there. Regardless, he didn't make the show given the same way that every other single loose cannon did, he made the show based on an exception from Pokerstars. The fact is they originally saw his video, noticed he got votes, and still didn't pick him for the show until after the original cast had been decided. As far as I know it's still uncertain whether some unlucky chap got kicked off in order to give Jared a spot.

If you listen to Jared on the latest Cash Plays I'll find it very hard for people to keep defending him. For one, they tried to ask him about his charity at the end and he didn't even respond and hung up on the convo. He never even brought up his charity (if he even has one) during the whole interview. Funny considering that's how he said he was going to spend his winnings on it (never gave a % remember lol), and he didn't even bother to plug it during the interview. They had to ask him about it at the end and he d/c'd/didn't respond.

Also in the interview, Jared explicately said that he would have been "happy to get it in with the Ace 3 of diamonds." on the Jxxdd board. I don't see how anyone can defend his play when he says that he would have been thrilled to get all his money in with a flush draw, yet he continued to fold hand after hand. There's a HUGE GAPING WIDE disconnect between the way Jared talks about himself and the way he actually acts. Jared Tendler on the podcast interview would do really great for talking to JH and getting him to realize that needs to grasp fundamentals of poker before his game can move on. There are so many "lol" points in the interview where Huggins is talking about how he played on TBG and makes no sense at all. The lone example I gave is only the tip of the iceberg, saying he would have gladly shipped it in with the flush draw and been happy with his play (I'm not exaggerately its a literal quote). Considering how much people have dissected his play here and he's clearly read all our strategic feedback it's shocking to me he can make such a poor statement on an interview several months later.

I leave you with one thought. Season 1 and 2 of TBG only featured one regular 2+2 poster and member. You would think as a member of this community he could represent us and at least play well (as a poker community, most of us wouldn't be results oriented and simply happy if you played well but lost). Rather he played worse than some of the less talented loose cannons on the show. As a member of this community that just doesn't make sense, I would have thought he'd learn more from here and not limp J9o in the cutoff. As a final aside, I have sincerely tried to write this post in earnest and not with the intention of being hurtful, the Cash Plays interview just capped off this whole charade for me.
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08-19-2011 , 03:53 PM
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I agree w/ this sentiment for the most part. I'm not convinced Jared did well given the format but overall fundamental wise he did ok. Also think KyddDynamite is pretty spot on about the hands, save for a few mistakes in regard to Jared's position in a few hands (the hh replayer was prob wrong).

The only other 2 hands that were errors were folding A5s utg after he was about to open (seems like Selbst talked him out of it) and not betting KT on the river. Also he needs to run it once.

Those that bash him for not owning up to his mistakes are wrong...I went through his Big Game session w/ him recently and he was very receptive to all the criticism I was dishing out. He was all ears and I can tell he was making an effort to realize his mistakes and learn from them, and as poker players that's a great quality to have.
I almost included the A5s but thought it was a marginal mistake so didn't. He still had 4 orbits by the time he busted out. That's enough time to get aggressive and gambool which I can only assume he would have done since he seemed to open it up more towards the end.


@dalopper
To be fair I have not seen the interview, but he has said the charity is Make a Wish multiple times. The only thing I could assume is "his" charity is giving hugs and hoping people match his donations to Make a Wish.

Why would he, or any LC, need to say an exact percentage of where their winnings will go?
First off, he doesn't owe this information to anyone. It isn't any of our business what he's doing with his money just because it is on TV.
Secondly, he probably didn't have a percentage he was donating anyways. I'm pretty sure his donations would have varied depending on how much he won. Being the generous guy he has shown us to be, I'm sure the more he won the bigger his donating percentage would have been.

The A3 of diamonds hand was a 4 way pot in which he flopped the nut flush draw with a wheel draw... of course he would be willin got get it in. You wouldn't be?
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08-19-2011 , 11:40 PM
I've been so busy I didn't get to see the show. Also didn't realize Esfandiari was in it. I'll have to peruse the interwebs to find the show.

Anyway, I've been more of a sideliner on the whole Jared Huggins thing. I respect what appears to be a good-naturedness, even if I think it's largely inappropriately misplaced. It's a shame to hear it didn't go better on the show, but c'est la vie.

Do you have a job now, Jared? I hope your financial situation is working out now.
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08-20-2011 , 03:19 AM
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jared fuggins coulda learned something from this LC....he's playing 200000x better than JH, since JH said he "went to a casino to study people for hours" so much lol@him
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pretty embarrassing for Jared Fraudgins to be wedged between Gonzo owning and being entertaining, then Courtney Gee getting her money in as a big favorite, the jared acts like a creeper and gets his money way behind as well as limp/folding the majority of the 150 hands
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godddd why do you jk nuthuggers keep bumping this thread when it finally drops with some useless comment... can we please drop this pathetic story already
You have 57 total posts and 10 of those are talking trash about me. Whatever issue you have with me, there's no need to keep posting over and over again, negative things about me.

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The more accurate thing to say is that many people who knew him already ended up softplaying him and maybe chipdumped here and there.
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For one, they tried to ask him about his charity at the end and he didn't even respond and hung up on the convo.
Now you're making things up that are untrue. Last month, you tried to berate me for posting a video with a direct link to the Make-A-Wish Foundation, this week you're trying to talk trash because I didn't mention charity enough. That doesn't make much sense.

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You would think as a member of this community he could represent us and at least play well
I could have played a lot better on the show. Nothing to argue about there. My health is worse than I have told people on 2+2. I make a big effort to be optimistic. One of my goals on the show was to win enough money to get medication for psoriatic arthritis (Humira), that made the loss sting that much more for me. I beat myself up about how I played for months after the show, especially on days was feeling very ill. But I'm staying optimistic, and moving forward with my life, and my goals. There are much more important things in life, than TV shows, and poker.

In the big picture, I won. I grew as a person tremendously from this whole experience, inspired some people, improved my relationship with my family, and thanks to 2+2, was encouraged to volunteer and get active in my community.

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08-21-2011 , 09:57 PM
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Analyzing your session hand by hand makes it more obvious how limited your spots were in this session. You didn't really make any hands, and a lot of hands you could have played got shut down with preflop 3bets. Many people would mistakenly get impatient and start calling with ATs or worse when they've been card dead. I thought Jared overall did well. I think he looks worse playing on TV than he did in the replayer.
Chad, Just want to say thanks for taking the time to watch the episodes and also for the positive message you sent me. I really appreciate it and I'm looking forward to keeping in touch with you regarding future ministry opportunities.

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Those that bash him for not owning up to his mistakes are wrong...I went through his Big Game session w/ him recently and he was very receptive to all the criticism I was dishing out. He was all ears and I can tell he was making an effort to realize his mistakes and learn from them, and as poker players that's a great quality to have.
I've enjoyed getting coached by you John, and I look forward to talking to you more this week. Thank you, and have a great day.
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08-22-2011 , 07:12 AM
Just read the whole thread and you've said "I've been completely open with my whole life" more times than I can count, but continue to dodge the question - DO YOU HAVE A JOB?
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08-22-2011 , 09:43 PM
probably clinging still to the spotlight now that he understands how opportunistic the poker community can be for him imo - cue his coach defending him, starting to talk about his bad health (donationdrive on the way) and instead of him getting a real job thinking about playing poker for a living when he cleary shouldn't (gotten a taste of the good life and attention)

But dont mind me I'm just a Cynic thinking this is all very weird by now
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08-22-2011 , 10:52 PM
I'm amazed at how positive JH is thruout all the abuse from all the clowns on the forum.
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08-22-2011 , 11:23 PM
Well he could just stop posting couldn't he? I've actually defended him in the past when people critized his play on the big game.

What the hell has this thread got to do and/or give in the televised forums right now Mark275? This is like a "this is my life" thread that should be on the underground forums at this point. Jared defending every play and responding to every post - what gives? Posting PM's and talking post counts? Srsly? Accept that not everyone is going to love you or see things from your perspective and move a long. Atleast start grinding online and post graphs of your progress / say you're a born again Christian so it's a good read cause the same thing(s) get beaten over and over and over DUCY?

Thread should be moved or locked.
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08-23-2011 , 12:48 AM
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What the hell has this thread got to do and/or give in the televised forums right now Mark275?
Thread should be moved or locked.
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probably clinging still to the spotlight
There is no spotlight to cling to. People asked me for a trip report about being on the TV show, here it is. This thread will die on its own, it pretty much already has, so I wouldn't worry about it too much if I was you.

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Just read the whole thread and you've said "I've been completely open with my whole life" more times than I can count, but continue to dodge the question - DO YOU HAVE A JOB?
Yes. I've worked at the same job for over 2 years. Not avoiding that question. Just not interested in using 2+2 as a personal blog.

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08-23-2011 , 03:50 AM
Jared your the man in the game of life. Who cares what a bunch of angry nerds think about how you play poker
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08-23-2011 , 07:07 AM
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asked me for a trip report about being on the TV show, here it is.
Thread has gone far and beyond that.

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Just not interested in using 2+2 as a personal blog.
You already are.

My personal view of you Jared after going through material is that you're a SERIOUS degen. You need help to get away from poker and that should be your number 1 priority. I think you prioritize it more then everything, even comfort, in your life. I wouldn't be surprised if poker is the reason you can't hold a job even though you have a reasonable education. I think there is a hell of a lot not being said. A real degen will do ANYTHING for money towards his addiction and in time will be a skilled manipulator in doing so.

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My sn's:

FT: inhale slow
Pokerstars: inhale slow
AP: relaxation
UB: -relaxation-
Doyles Room: inhale slow
People can run these through sharkscope (sharkscope.com) and see what comes up. In the thread you say you've won 14000 dollars at playing poker. Under what nick Jared?

For those who don't know the entire background they can read this thread;
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...-story-715623/

It starts off with you sitting with your entire bankroll (100dollars) on a HU table and loosing it. Great management. Very soon followed by you dancing on youtube for 30 dollars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI5Ac3IbOW0

While people find this funny and encourage you to do more things for money or even heartbreaking I find it sad cause you ****ing need help. You have a degree, work 3 shifts, and keep applying for jobs that highschoolkids get working at tacobell etc.

In my opinion; Win or Lose at the biggame - that money was going towards your "pokercareer" as you probably see it. Every nickel of it. Even if you won 100k within a year or two you would be back where you started. You probably had some plan in the beginning (since you overvalue your pokerplay tremendously) that you would win, give some to charity, and then - only then - continue with poker. But no, you simply can't stop and even in the light of people flat out saying that you suck, your negative results online etc, can't.

1) Sell your computer / camera / whatnot
2) Get help for your gambling problems
3) Never play poker again
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08-23-2011 , 07:59 AM
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My personal view of you Jared after going through material is that you're a SERIOUS degen. You need help to get away from poker and that should be your number 1 priority. I think you prioritize it more then everything, even comfort, in your life. I wouldn't be surprised if poker is the reason you can't hold a job even though you have a reasonable education.
Sounds like you're projecting. Have played very few hands of poker this year. 3 years ago PTR tracked maybe 1/2 of hands played at Bodog if even that and it shows 4k profit. My PokerStars cash and Sharkscope are positive, they took a dip when I started seeking out very good players online, and experimenting with different strategies, right before the show filmed, was a worthwhile investment IMO.

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In my opinion; Win or Lose at the biggame - that money was going towards your "pokercareer" as you probably see it. Every nickel of it.
Not sure what part of "I'm playing today for the Make-A-Wish Foundation" you don't understand. I ended up giving them a lot of time and money even though I didn't win money on the show, to think I'd give less if I won, doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You seem to have come to your own conclusions already. It's all good.

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Jared your the man in the game of life. Who cares what a bunch of angry nerds think about how you play poker
Thanks bro.

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08-24-2011 , 01:22 AM
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Jared your the man in the game of life. Who cares what a bunch of angry nerds think about how you play poker
Apparently you care enough to post a comment about them... hmmm... irony...

And generalizing people as "nerds" only implicates you being in the unfavorable intelligent spectrum and I can obviously see why. Congratulating a welfare recipient as "the man in the game of life", you must be near or if not, ****ing mentally ******ed! LOL
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08-24-2011 , 01:49 AM
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Congratulating a welfare recipient
Not me but maybe your momma!
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08-24-2011 , 08:01 AM
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Congratulating a welfare recipient
Not me but maybe your momma!
How about a drunk driving arrest? or is that my momma too? If DUIs make you the man in life, then Jared is certainly the man.
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08-24-2011 , 10:08 AM
Some of you are so vile
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08-24-2011 , 03:09 PM
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How about a drunk driving arrest? or is that my momma too? If DUIs make you the man in life, then Jared is certainly the man.
I was making a joke, directed at Streetz. Not even talking to you.

And no, I don't have anything negative to say about you, even though your part-time job is to say anything, and everything, to try and get a rise out of me.

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08-25-2011 , 12:40 AM
Ahhhh, someone deleted my response, good for you buddy. LOL!
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08-25-2011 , 12:48 AM
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Wow...You're pulling some angry rabbits out of your hat...and they look bloodthirsty to me.
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08-25-2011 , 01:04 AM
You are the man in my book

I will watch any time you are on again

GG tight is right. I would have flipped for the roll degen style is able to
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08-25-2011 , 03:32 AM
Interesting how some posters in this topic are able to troll Jared with no consequences. Strong forum mod activity in this sub forum.
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