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07-18-2011 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RelaxedPrecision
I bought a watch for $50 from Ross. The plan was to win on the show and keep the watch. Lost and returned it the next day.

Limping J9 off in the cutoff was totally wrong on my part. Don't remember my exact thought process, somehow leveled myself into doing the unthinkable. Knew it was wrong once I did it.
these two paragraphs are related, DUCY?
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07-18-2011 , 10:10 AM
what's your screen name online?
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07-18-2011 , 10:34 AM
The QT OESD on the flush board vs Vanessa, why not try shovelling it in right there?
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07-18-2011 , 10:45 AM
I disagree that you played well but good luck Jared
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07-18-2011 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
The QT OESD on the flush board vs Vanessa, why not try shovelling it in right there?
lol
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07-18-2011 , 10:59 AM
is this guy for real? if i see how much he played live and traveled where did that money came from?.

i don't think 6000$ will cover it and if he wanted to win money why did you play like that even at the end?

i don't know here in Holland we like to see before we believe and i hope you are honest and if so all the luck to you but if you wanted to win so bad i cant believe you play like that against pros?.

i think that you missed a chance and given the fact that you played so much live poker and read about it you must have known that if you are still down after 100 hands you should have changed your game,you played with free money!!!! i cant believe it!!!.

i think you best stay away from live cashgames with a game like that{or you must have tons of free time on your hands,and then still you couldent make a living out of it}.

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07-18-2011 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ChristianT
lol
31% chance of winning a $200k pot versus trying to outplay professionals in smaller pots? I take the 31% chance tyvm. IIRC the other person in the hand had folded and Vanessa isn't going to call with a FD
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07-18-2011 , 11:17 AM
I think you had a fundamental misunderstanding of the format. Your goal isn't to make no mistakes, it isn't even to play vacuum +EV poker; it's to put yourself in a position to win whenever possible due to the time constraint.

To put it simply, if someone offers you a flip as a 40% dog you would/should snap call. You played the absolute worst style of poker possible as a LC - nitty, passive and low variance. Also, running it twice with 20 hands to go was a pretty big mistake and symptomatic of how you didn't understand the format at all.

By day 3, you could not show a profit without a gigantic cooler. Nobody was paying you off with less than a decent 2 pair hand. I honestly doubt you could ever double up without the nuts. You mention not capitalising on your image as if it's an extra thing you could've done. The truth is that understanding your image and what you represent to your opponents is something most winning micro stakes players understand and use to some effect.

I'm not sure whether your preparation was just very inefficient, you completely froze under the mental pressure or you didn't really spend 4 months working solidly on getting good at poker. Whatever it was, you played poorly given the format irrespective of the cards that were dealt and no amount of cotton candy rhetoric can disguise that fact.

Also, going to a casino and reading Caro's Book of Tells when going up against seasoned live pros seems naive and woefully misguided to me

Last edited by 999; 07-18-2011 at 11:24 AM. Reason: just to make it clear this isn't a comment about your character but your poker ability
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07-18-2011 , 12:15 PM
The set is cool. The show was filmed inside the exhibition halls at South Point. They are these massive long rooms.

You get a 5 minute sharp break after every 30 hands. Then a 45 minute lunch break (IIRC) in the middle. The whole day is 8-10 hours of play straight through.

Its plays like a normal poker game, you can't even see the cameras. It's a really cool set and atmosphere. Theres the set you see, then across the way in the same big room are some trailers, make up, etc.

My SN on Stars is Inhale Slow.

Thank you for the constructive criticism, and for giving the reasoning why you think what you do.
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07-18-2011 , 12:24 PM
good god, it must be incredibly awesome to just play every single hand perfectly, and to just be perfect all around! how do you guys do it????
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07-18-2011 , 12:47 PM
should have read hellmuth's play like the pros.
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07-18-2011 , 01:19 PM
Jared,

I like the part where you played aggressively and used what you learned from aejones about barreling. It was nice to see a loose cannon with a fearless and commanding table presence too, btw. I think you should have limped more to 1) play more hands and 2) keep your opponents guessing. Hopefully you will adjust your game accordingly.
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07-18-2011 , 01:34 PM
You can say anything you want and justify your play however you will, the fact is that at no point of the game did you show even a remote understanding of what's good LC strategy. You were playing like it was your money, instead of play money which it was. It's play money that you should aggressively leverage and then hope you double up, probably as an underdog when the money goes in.

It's as simple as this:

If you sit in Bobby's Room with $100k and get your whole stack in as a 65-35 dog, you've just cost yourself $30k in real money equity. If you get in to the same exact situation in the Big Game playing with Pokerstars playmoney, you've just won $70k in equity. This is the math which, judging by your play, you never understood.
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07-18-2011 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by carmourr
in a 150 hand sample you have to mix it up more than usual and get lucky

you played uber uber tight and it was seriously a bore to watch you burn away the opportunity you got by essentially hoping for a cold deck to double you up or some sick set up

Seriously hard to believe you think your play was optimal given the format, but whatever, each to their own..
+1. You seem like a really nice guy Jared, and I wish you all the best in life. That said, you completely pissed away any opportunity to make a serious score by playing so sub-optimally. The way to really profit in this format is to mix it up time and again, and you basically played with your cards face up and would have only turned a very small profit even if you had been dealt AA multiple times.
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07-18-2011 , 06:20 PM
Did you ever consider situations like the one where you held QT and flopped an OESD and actually raising the flop or the turn? Situations like that tilt me so much because there was so much dead money and if you do get action, who cares because you're using play money anyhow.
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07-18-2011 , 06:32 PM
You played allright if it was a normal poker game.

But in this format, a player should be raising and 3betting and shoving flops and just trying to get the biggest possible pots built as long as you've got 30% equity or so. I can't believe the cannons keep going on and nitting it up, what's the point?

I wish you the best though Jared, you seem like a good guy. Clearly you are an unusual guy and may have some psychological odditites going on, but you seem brave, motivated, and dedicated in your challenges. I'm just surprised after all that work that you played the way you did.

In the ATs hand early on, as much as it seems like a bad play, cold 4betting and trying to get it all in preflop is probably a good play. As long as you aren't against AA (which is very unlikely), you figure to have 28-45% equity, and that means a 28-45% chance of being up 100k early on, at which point you can cruise to the biggest win of your life. That ~30% chance of winning big is probably far better than what you gave yourself by playing the way you did, particularly because you had perhaps the toughest table draw. You had Greenstein, Friedman, Selbst, Esfandiari, none who spew, and even Cassavetes appears to be a much better player than most amateurs. No Perkins, Rahim, or even Helmuth/Tony G/Negreanu type spewy players at all. You should've just been looking to gamble it up.

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07-18-2011 , 06:53 PM
waste of 2+2's time and energy to sponsor a nit, karma QQ vs KK

should of gambled more early, folding and limping dont equal profit

gl
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07-18-2011 , 06:56 PM
I think many of the critics ITT and the other one are being far too hard on you. Many (but not all) of them are, I assume, simply just bored trolls, and I'd encourage you to learn from the constructive criticism but ignore the blind flames.

You saw a very limited number of hands throughout the day and, from what I could tell, ran absolutely card dead. You played for a situation to get it in a gamble as not a huge dog and got it all-in with QQ nearing the end of the day. All of the players at the table had to know you'd be getting close to jamming with ATC at that point, so it was a +EV situation overall. You just got coolered.

I didn't watch the show with great detail, but I did try to watch all your hands from all 5 episodes. I can't say I saw many spots (and I'm not exactly going to count the very early spots) where you passed up a ton of equity (even 20-30%) that you shouldn't have.

Your story overall is very impressive and I'm happy you've had this experience. I hope you can continue to spread you good spirit and foster generosity throughout the poker community. You have set a good example by giving back after people gave to you. Through all of this too you have remained quite humble despite all the attention and fame you've gotten. That is quite admirable as well.

Best of luck.
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07-18-2011 , 07:54 PM
Jared you played absolutely horrible. You played weak tight in a format where if you want to be successful, you HAVE TO PLAY tight aggressive. Your comment that the pros made the only mistakes is LOOOOOOL.

ldo
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07-18-2011 , 08:10 PM
Honestly, I thought you played terribly but I wish you could have made out with some money. Limping in early position at a table like that and then folding to a raise, you might as well just got a lighter and torched the money. How many limped pots were there out of the 150 hands? 2? 3?
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07-18-2011 , 10:20 PM
the dude played like crap. No 3 betting, no bluffing, no floating and turn barrelling. he was playing scared and tight. Blew away $25k just by folding. Only 1 hand all in, with the QQ vs KK. Made nothing with his KK.

Had a few decent hands on the last day, but he should have been raising pre-flop far more and pushing all in. You're gonna have to flip to win.

Sucks but that's life, perhaps he's just not cut out to be a poker pro.

Worst thing is he THINKS he played well! Come to my table any day.
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07-18-2011 , 10:49 PM
Now that you can't grind online, how has your life changed after the poker stuff ? I'm assuming you don't yet have a roll for grinding 1/2 live . Are you on your way to being financially stable ? Have a job in place, apartment etc ? Recieved any live staking deals to play on the side for extra income ?

GL in your future endeavors.
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07-18-2011 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by masaraksh
Jared,

I like the part where you played aggressively and used what you learned from aejones about barreling. It was nice to see a loose cannon with a fearless and commanding table presence too, btw. I think you should have limped more to 1) play more hands and 2) keep your opponents guessing. Hopefully you will adjust your game accordingly.
sick level
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07-19-2011 , 12:02 AM
just watched it all, was happy for your story and everything. you definitly missed a lot of spots. I was getting anxiety watching the show from saying RAISE JARED, 3BET JARED, GET IT IN JARED, OMG HE FOLDED WTF! it's all good tho. you have never claimed to be a poker pro, I was hoping you could get a double up and fold to the end and make some funds. anyways, i dont think the things people here are saying are meant in a bad way. it a game, you had a bad day, didnt play well. that speaks nothing of the person you are and the lives you have touched. good luck in the future!
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07-19-2011 , 01:05 AM
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it's all good tho. you have never claimed to be a poker pro, I was hoping you could get a double up and fold to the end and make some funds. anyways, i dont think the things people here are saying are meant in a bad way. it a game, you had a bad day, didnt play well.
The problem is he keeps adamantly declaring he played great to the point of being cocky about it.
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