Hero has aces, opens to 15$
Villain has 300$~ stack and raises to some amount
Hero thinks he looks strong and raises to 75$
Villain raises all-in
Hero calls

That guy almost jumps out of his chair and flips
out aces. He's standing up, really happy, looking at the ceiling like he's thinking about Las Vegas and the Mirage, pumping himself.

Me I'm slightly discouraged, and wait to look at the flop to see if there's a 4 card flush.

Flop comes king high rainbow.

Some other guy at the table tells villain I might have kings, villain says there's no way I have kings

Two more cards come, dealer gestures towards me to flip my cards and I do, villain says around the lines oh "You slowrolling me huh"

Hardly a slow roll for a chopped pot but once the flop has come and its clear you can't get a 4 card flush I would have turned my hand over. Not sure why you waited for the dealer to ask.

I don't have a predefined set of conduct
about that.

I was not thinking about anything there, I know instinctively that dealer draws two more cards weither or not I show my cards, but I wasn't thinking about that either.

I don't think I ever consciously slow rolled someone, I don't have that in me, I think that cards in the dealer's deck don't change either ways

In all in spots sometimes I show my hand sometimes I don't, just follow
my feel of the moment

I know that I want the other players at the table to have fun so if there's some sort of unwritten rule about this I could incorporate that makes everyone feel better I'd slowly add it to my game

Flip your hand over in every all in pot. It’s that easy. The info you give away is so trivial and the pointless “show first” dance and accusations of slow rolls is completely avoided. Speeds things up for everyone.

While it wasn't malicious on your end, this is the thing that's always bothered me about live poker. Players should just show their hands as soon as action is over, or at the very least the person whose all-in was called should show immediately. The chicken dance at the end is pretty silly.

Good rule of thumb is if you were not the person who got called and you have your opponent drawing dead or chopping, just show so as to not slight anybody

Yes, you could get some blow back on this one. But it's not really a slow roll per se.

Lots of Players don't like to show their cards until the Board is out for whatever reason .. they don't want to show the Dealer how to beat them?

Action is over once we get to Showdown and then there's an order to show. Technically there's no Showdown until the Board is complete but in this particular case it would've been better to show after the Flop.

Players get a choice here .. how many times have you flipped your cards over 'out of turn' and then been beat on the River? You can say that the information is trivial all you want but it's still a choice offered to the Player until it actually is their turn to show .. that's when the slow rolling can begin. GL

That's lousy advise.

OP, I would have shown my AA after it was clear no four flush was coming.

Why wait? What does it gain you?

Any reason why? Or just throwing out words?

Just flip your cards over when there's no more action. Whether that be all in preflop or at showdown. Don't be the guy who has to be told to turn over your hand.

Because you want to know what your opponent played. It tells you how to range his hands and therefore how to best take his money. Or, failing that, lose the minimum when you're beat.

However, if you don't know how to do that, then go ahead and automatically give free information to those that do. They will appreciate it.

OP, I'm with the field, open after the flop comes out.

Just flip them over once the other guy shows his aces and you know it's going to be a split pot anyway.

FWIW, I'm in the camp of people who don't table their hand if I'm not trying to claim the pot.

A bigger slow roll

I agree OP, flipping your cards over when you know you have the nuts pre is good ethical poker.

I'm in the camp of people who don't table their hand if I'm not trying to claim the pot.


I know when to turn my hand up.

A few observations...

First, I see no reason whatsoever to wait to table OP's hand in this case, especially once the other player shows, but even if he doesn't. While I might not want to show a hand like 9-7 suited that I somehow got all-in preflop because I don't want others to know that I'm capable of those kind of shenanigans, revealing a willingness to get it all-in preflop with pocket aces discloses absolutely nothing. Both the best player in the world and the worst would play the hand the exact same way. It's anticlimactic, not revealing.

Second, a player might consider revealing his hand right away in these situations for another reason. I have lost AA v. AA and KK v. KK matchups several times to a 4-card flush. I have never won the matchup. I know that this is statistically improbable, but personally, I'd rather not risk losing a big pre-flop pot to a cooler like this one. I don't know why I feel differently about this situation than any other kind of cooler or bad beat, but I do.

So the last few times I realized that I was facing this matchup, I stopped the dealer before the flop came out and asked the other player if he wanted to chop the pot. As I recall, the very last time I did this, the other player agreed, we chopped, and I succeeded in preventing the loss of a full buy-in when the full board revealed that the other player would have made a four-card flush. That would not have been possible if I had waited to show my hand.

Why did the dealer even have to gesture to you to table or muck your hand after the river was dealt???? It was without a doubt a slow roll.

Not allowed anywhere I've dealt.

Not a slow roll, but unnecessary and slows game down.

Once flop comes rainbow and you are always chopping, you should table your hand.

Pumping himself? I'm not sure what that means, but it sure sounds like a premature and excessive celebration.

Did you slow-roll him? Maybe a little. Did he deserve it? Absolutely! Next time try saying, "Aces are good," in a discouraged tone as you finally turn over yours.

Actually .. "Aces are good .. for half the pot" .. GL

You're tempting me to slow roll now.

"Your aces are good.................. for half the pot"

Relaxation and entertainment, before I was always showing hands in allin spots and most of players weren't and I didn't knew the drawing conditions, so I kinda revert back to go with the feel, but yeah maybe I'll just do it nyeays nows

So you're basically saying you want to slowroll him. Why did you even start this thread in the first place?

read my other posts

I don't flip my hand over in a cash game until the river is dealt.

Neither do I normally unless I flop or turn a super monster like top quads or straight flush. Basically hand I would love to get beat for BBJP.

But in this case, you effectively have stone cold nutted hand. You are hopping r3gardless so once that is true, just flip ‘em. There is no info hiding because you are going to show eventually.