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Originally Posted by super_k90
I've made a hero call on the river in a heads up pot. The villian has said good call and briefly showed his cards and threw them to the dealer and they went facedown and touched the muck. A player at the table then says you had a straight and the cards are retrieved and turned face up and the pot is shipped to him.
What is the ruling here? He did show his hand for a second but then they definitely touched the muck.
1) "Briefly showing" your cards may or may not be tabling them; if they were displayed to the entire table, most places would consider them tabled (though some would require that they actually had been placed on the table), but if they were just shown to a neighbor, most places probably would not consider them to have been tabled.
2) IF they were tabled, they're still live and pot should be pushed to the best tabled hand. Once a hand is tabled, mucking it doesn't kill its claim on the pot and cards speak.
3) If they were not tabled (i.e., just flashed), they are still live in most places if they are readily retrievable and clearly identifiable. But rules on this vary a lot from room to room. Some places will kill an untabled hand if it is simply released facedown over the line or toward the dealer; some when it merely touches the ("magic") muck. But in many/most rooms, this hand would still be live.
4) Player not in hand is out of line to comment on straight ONLY if hand was not tabled. Once it is tabled, all players are responsible to see that hands are read and pot awarded correctly.