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Originally Posted by Phraust
That's what I don't feel like dealing with, proving my losses if it comes down to it. Without my SSN I should most likely never have to deal with that. I really don't think it would be an issue to provide my SSN but it's more a "better safe than sorry" situation. I'd just hate to be in a crappy situation because I provided it, but it sounds like I could be in an even worse one if I don't (getting banned). They're already doing an investigation. I told lottery go ahead it's fine, when I play, what time I was there that night, etc. Since I have nothing to hide. But now I'm worried the casino might just say we don't feel like dealing with you, get out and don't come back.
Whether you owe taxes on gambling wins, need to prove this, etc have NOTHING to do with filing a CTR and providing your SSN.
CTRs, while they can be accessed by IRS, are not normally provided to IRS. If IRS audits you, they might pull any CTRs filed in your SSN. But giving your SSN for a CTR will not trigger anything at IRS.
Giving your SSN, again it is required, for certain wins in the casino, will go to the IRS along with the proper paperwork. Liver Poker cash play wins will not trigger this. A BBJP or similar large enough "win", will trigger IRS paperwork including a requirement to provide SSN. For those wins, if casino doesn't already have your SSN or you don't provide it when asked, you simply will not get paid. Period. The casino has zero say in these things. But for tax advice seek the advice of a lawyer and/or a accountant.
I am not sure who "lottery" is or who is doing an investigation or what they are investigating. The thing to remember is casinos are monitored by the feds particularly around potential money laundering and the regs the casino must follow. This is why nearly all non-reservation casinos no longer allow cash to play. (GNLV is the only exception I know of but I am sure there area few others.) The feds literally contacted the casinos several years ago and warned they would be watched closely and needed to implement AML processes concerning cash in play.
So while the casino loves to have you in there and 'giving them money' (not much if a live poker only player), they care much more about their license and any fines. If you become a squeaky wheel w.r.t. these issues, they will simply choose to fire your as a customer. If you happen to be a mega whale, they probably will have a discussion to inform you of the risk. But if you are like most of us, they will simply ask you to leave and never return.
It is nothing against you per se. They just do not want to run the risk of the feds coming down on them for something you did or did not do.
So yes, you have a chance of being kicked out. I do not know any of your fact details or the casino involved. IANAL, but imo the best thing to do is do what the casino asks, when they ask, w/o making a fuss. At least where financial transactions are concerned. "Firing" customers is becoming much more a thing. But also remember, the casino is supposed to be held to the same standards for safeguarding the infomation they collect from you.