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General poker-related coronavirus discussion and argument - containment thread General poker-related coronavirus discussion and argument - containment thread

03-13-2020 , 01:06 AM
So to the people playing, how's the action in the card rooms been? Fewer people or business as usual?

Also would love action from Mike Starr on that 500 ppl number, lol wow.

Anyway, the epidemiologists all seem to think this is gonna blow up in the next few weeks, I don't see any reason not to believe them, it's not liberal media fear mongering imo.
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03-13-2020 , 01:39 AM
So are people in the casinos right now just being dumb?
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03-13-2020 , 02:46 AM
Maybe not dumb, but have a firm belief this is just overblown media hysteria and if you're healthy there's nothing to worry about. Plus no real regard as to who they could possibly spread it to. Okay, maybe dumb
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03-13-2020 , 09:35 AM
Played a 15 hour session yesterday. Casino patrons were noticeably reduced. Buffet was a ghost town. We had only one table going despite a $500 Lucky Seat Promo going on ... and despite all that I didn't get pulled for any of the 5 casino drawings or 6 poker seat promos ...

We were sitting there when all the sports/Disney news broke and our state shut down all the schools for 3 weeks. Some Regs indicated they were taking at least a week off despite more promos in the works. GL

PS .. One Player did show up in latex gloves and no one said a word to him. One other Player was wearing his mask, but that is a regular thing for him.
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03-13-2020 , 12:44 PM
in two seconds thos elatex gloves get violated.
like when the food vendors where gloves and then make change without taking them off
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03-13-2020 , 12:53 PM
It's definitely dumb to play in a casino right now. They are dirty places and you are handling chips and cards that are touched by so many other people. They are crowded and are frequented by people who come from all over the place, like an airport or cruise ship. And they have poor air circulation.

Find a new hobby for the next few months. Sorry if you're a pro.
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03-13-2020 , 03:08 PM
I played 8 hours yesterday and 8 hours today. With no latex gloves. I am fearless on and off the poker table.
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03-13-2020 , 03:27 PM
im also going to play live cash this weekend, but im in canada so i have pretty much zero fear. and im not a boomer.
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03-13-2020 , 04:19 PM
I would estimate that the casino I work at has around 30-40% of the normal amount of customers for a Friday afternoon. In the poker room it is the same. Maybe closer to 50%. The sports book on the other hand... It's going to be rough for them.
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03-13-2020 , 05:12 PM
I agree with Mike's general sentiment but lol at <100 deaths (or even 500). There's already 41.

Is there a place we can actually bet on this? I wonder what they'd put the over/under at. Personally I think there will be around 5k US deaths, and sorry for being cold but that's not a big deal.
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03-13-2020 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
I agree with Mike's general sentiment but lol at <100 deaths (or even 500). There's already 41.

Is there a place we can actually bet on this? I wonder what they'd put the over/under at. Personally I think there will be around 5k US deaths, and sorry for being cold but that's not a big deal.
Wanna bet on 5k deaths in the US? I'll take the over
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03-13-2020 , 10:41 PM
I'll take out a second mortgage and lay 100-1 on the over 5K
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03-13-2020 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cardsharkk04
So to the people playing, how's the action in the card rooms been? Fewer people or business as usual?

Also would love action from Mike Starr on that 500 ppl number, lol wow.

Anyway, the epidemiologists all seem to think this is gonna blow up in the next few weeks, I don't see any reason not to believe them, it's not liberal media fear mongering imo.
looking at bravo definitely way down
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03-13-2020 , 11:10 PM
Surreal how much has changed in a week. Not just in poker but across the board
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03-13-2020 , 11:19 PM
I continued to play as normal up to the point that the casino I was playing in was forced to close. Am I "dumb"? Maybe. I'm not the type of person to live in fear of the boogeyman though. There's no right or wrong answer to this though, do what you believe is best for you.

There was definitely a decreased amount of people in the room though, even before the closure announcement. Friday at this casino with a HH promo usually sees ~20 tables by late afternoon and peaks around 30 tables by late evening. I think at most they had 9 tables today.
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03-14-2020 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by branch0095
I continued to play as normal up to the point that the casino I was playing in was forced to close. Am I "dumb"? Maybe. I'm not the type of person to live in fear of the boogeyman though. There's no right or wrong answer to this though, do what you believe is best for you.

There was definitely a decreased amount of people in the room though, even before the closure announcement. Friday at this casino with a HH promo usually sees ~20 tables by late afternoon and peaks around 30 tables by late evening. I think at most they had 9 tables today.
So, who have you interacted with (or plan to interact with in the next 14 days)? Because you also are exposing them.

One of the reasons why containment will fail is to many people placing tgheir uninformed opinions over the advice of subject matter experts, or thinking only of themselves and not the risk to the community.
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03-14-2020 , 12:40 AM
This is gonna get ugly fast.
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03-14-2020 , 01:13 AM
Slow room in small town central Florida tonight. I didn't drive down to Tampa as that metropolitan area of millions close to the cruise industry has to be teaming with the virus. I felt like this will be the last weekend casinos generally are open, so I didn't want to push it and to be frank wasn't too keen for being on the highway as things escalate.

A hospital lab worker was at the table and said zero positives for corona in Ocala hospitals, one in Gainesville. So he at Ocala hasn't seen it yet. I tried to bet him that he'd be seeing positives next week, he wouldn't bet.

We used to say "make sure to get your play in," as a funny saying ... it's never been as meaningful as now. Public games are going dormant, worldwide, soon.

Somebody at the table raised the point about the Indian Reservations that don't have to follow governor mandates. Interesting.

Peace and health.

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03-14-2020 , 01:22 AM
Gotta add that it's incredibly dramatic seeing this happen. Always thought the movies on this subject, beginning with Michael Creighton's Andromeda Strain way back in the 70s, were gripping. The real deal is a few thousand levels more gripping. Can you imagine if the thing was like 50% lethal?
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03-14-2020 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SpewingIsMyMove
So, who have you interacted with (or plan to interact with in the next 14 days)? Because you also are exposing them.

One of the reasons why containment will fail is to many people placing tgheir uninformed opinions over the advice of subject matter experts, or thinking only of themselves and not the risk to the community.
I still have to go to work too everyday just like the vast majority of the population does. You can't cease living because of what "might" happen. It's really no different than going into a casino. Who have you come into contact with the last 14 days? Who has everyone come in contact with the last 14 days? If you even try to say "nobody" then I'm calling BS on that ****.
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03-14-2020 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
Gotta add that it's incredibly dramatic seeing this happen. Always thought the movies on this subject, beginning with Michael Creighton's Andromeda Strain way back in the 70s, were gripping. The real deal is a few thousand levels more gripping. Can you imagine if the thing was like 50% lethal?
it's actually worse because it's not that lethal so carriers can walk around and infect more people

super lethal stuff like ebola fizzes out quickly cause everyone kicks the bucket and the virus eventually runs out of hosts to spread
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03-14-2020 , 03:11 AM
Don't think it's dumb to continue on with life. Many projections are for most getting it eventually anyway, so better early or late ... not during the surge in the middle. Say you drastically halt life and sacrifice most everything for nine months then get it anyway, which is one likely scenario. We're still way more likely to die of something else while we are surrendering the pursuit of happiness to one possible cause of demise, which we don't do for any of the other possibilities. There are infectious diseases which call for totally draconian measures, bubonic plague for one, ebola, etc. I get the shape of the curve thing -- must be a classic calculus problem -- we slow it by distancing but not by quitting life.

Just a take.

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03-14-2020 , 11:05 AM
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Wanna bet on 5k deaths in the US? I'll take the over
Someone pointed out to me that H1N1 killed around 12k people (US) and this seems worse. I think this is a pretty bad bet for me. I didn't still didn't find a line though.

I'll snap accept the 100:1 offer if Alpha-fish is serious, but I'd want to use an escrow because he's clearly not serious.
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03-14-2020 , 12:23 PM
Let's say we succeed in taking countermeasures sufficient to slow the spread of the disease until the summer, when supposedly conditions will be less conductive to it spreading in general. Is the idea that when it reappears in the fall or early winter - and it will reappear unless it truly burns out, which ain't happening unless enough people catch it or it's eradicated around the world - there will be an available vaccine or some anti-viral cocktail that will have been discovered? Seems like a reach, but then again what do I know.

I also wonder if there will be the 9/11 effect once this is all over, where when 9/11 happened people talked about how all sorts of things will be the new normal, but a year later it was like it never happened. Will this be the end of shaking hands? Will cruise ships die out?
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03-14-2020 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rizzeedizzee
Let's say we succeed in taking countermeasures sufficient to slow the spread of the disease until the summer, when supposedly conditions will be less conductive to it spreading in general. Is the idea that when it reappears in the fall or early winter - and it will reappear unless it truly burns out, which ain't happening unless enough people catch it or it's eradicated around the world - there will be an available vaccine or some anti-viral cocktail that will have been discovered? Seems like a reach, but then again what do I know.

I also wonder if there will be the 9/11 effect once this is all over, where when 9/11 happened people talked about how all sorts of things will be the new normal, but a year later it was like it never happened. Will this be the end of shaking hands? Will cruise ships die out?
I... what? Things went back to normal after 9/11? Did I hallucinate the uptick in racist attacks against muslims and sikhs? The 19 years of war? Security theater at all our airports?



The idea is that by taking aggressive measures we can slow the spread to the point where the death toll is ~300,000 in the United States, instead of 1 million plus, by not ending up in the situation Italy is currently in, where doctors need to ration health care because they are overburdened. Unfortunately, it's looking like we're gonna get it at least as bad as Italy has it right now, since we're doing less than them in terms of restricting gatherings, we don't have public healthcare, we don't have mandatory paid sick leave, and we aren't testing people because we don't have tests.

I would say a fair line for # of deaths in the US directly related to COVID19 at 400,000, though I'd still be interested in the over. Over 5000 is free money at any odds
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