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Originally Posted by King Spew
Tom Collins, please read this:
This statement is correct. Unless I read your posts from the last few days incorrectly, you are spreading a bad opinion.
To the rest of you poker players, try to imagine your live poker sessions.... and then factor in that the CDC recommends teachers getting back to the classroom spend less than 15 minutes at a time in a closed room where teachers and students all wear masks.
Queen Spew
Immunology PhD
I'm not disagreeing with that. Simply that you can't use the infected rate and just assume every one of them is out there and spreading it. Either they are sick in bed and not spreading it, or they are only in the small portion of pre-symptomatic phase.
Only other point I had was based on initial viral load being a factor, and the absolute "best" case for someone and COVID is they get exposed and fight it off and their body is equipped to fight it off next time they see it.
I'm looking at the CDC recommendations and don't see anything about 15 minutes, other than "if you were in close contact with someone infected for 15 minutes, stay home".
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...e/schools.html
I will presume I'm better at wearing a mask than most children in a school (although others in a casino are pretty horrible at wearing masks).
My main opinion is that anyone who does not plan to spend the rest of their lives in quarantine will likely catch this at some point, and that each individual visit to a casino is small of catching it (at least smaller than they are imagining), although small probabilities run multiple times become near certainties. Playing in a casino every day for 6-8 hours for a month and you have fairly high odds of coming in contact. Playing occasionally as a rec player, you have better odds of dodging it.
Just to put my area in perspective, two county area of population ~2M, there are estimated 1000 cases (based on tests). Let's say there's 3x that due to pre-symptomatic people who haven't been tested and asymptomatic carriers. 14 day period for the spreaders and 3 days of it spreading before they either recover or isolate. That would mean 642 people out of the 2,000,000 would be likely spreading it. 1 out of every 3000 people in this case.
When I say being exposed to mild loads, I mean through reduced load through dual mask wearing, where even if someone is contagious, I'm getting a reduced load, and hand washing and not touching my face limits it. Temporary contact of a few hours but not living with them. And in the event I get sick, I get sick. I'm not in a risk group, I'm not in contact with people who are.