You are so full of **** it isn't even funny. Take your tin hat bullshit somewhere else Mr. Armchair Scientist.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN24420X

The dude proudly boasted that he receives his COVID information from grifters. It's relieving that his posts on the topic are contained to this thread, as they are unlikely to have any effect beyond training us how to spot a grift ourselves, but at a certain point it's like inviting a Cutco recruiter to proselytize about the economics of knife sales. He is dangerous specifically because he buys into it all.

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/...hardly-trivial



I guess Joe Rogan was exposing his millions of listeners to just a "grifter" when he had on Alex Berenson the other day for 3 hours, right?

Not gonna keep arguing . Whatever you wanna believe dc. Stay safe

Listen if joe rogan approves then I approve. That guy is super cool and smart and I even got a tramp stamp tattoo with his killer face on my lower back. Rogan's approval is all we need in these complicated times

The link I posted to the rcreader article has a 3 minute video of the Inventor of the PCR test explaining why it is misused etc.

He was talking about HIV and other retroviruses. The article I posted clarified that.

You've been trolling this thread with your lame arguments ever since the pandemic began.

Intelligent people use sound reasoning to arrive at conclusions. They don't just believe what they wanna believe emotionally and then come up with contorted arguments to make it seem true. That's what you've been doing since this thread began.

Trolling is providing information that doesn't fit an appocalypse narrative? he was using hiv as an example. Did you even read the whole article?

You're posting bullshit that you know is bullshit because you need validation. It's a mental health problem.


Wrong. He was talking specifically about retroviruses. And he was only saying the test detects the virus genetic sequence not the actual virus.

Joe Rogan has had Alex Jones on his podcast.

The insistence that a personality cannot be a grifter if he was a guest on Joe Rogan just re-confirms everything you have already revealed about yourself, Rize. You truly believe that nothing you fell for could have been a trick. "One more game of Three-card Monte, I have another theory."

When people go from asymptomatic to presymptomatic they are shedding the most virus and are the most contagious. You could never know the difference between the two.

People like you are sick in the head. More people are dying in the US than ever before. The virus is WORSE than ever, not better.

Confirmation bias is a helluva drug.

How does one go from a symptomatic to presymptomatic? Isn’t the definition o pre symptomatic that you eventually become symptomatic. Whereas asymptomatic means one doesn’t show symptoms. If one ever shows symptoms then the whole time they weren’t symptomatic they were presymptomatic.

A transition from asymptomatic to presymptomatic would appear to be an oxymoron.

"Asymptomatic means you don't have symptoms, but you're infected with the virus. Presymptomatic means you're infected, and you're shedding the virus. But you don't yet have symptoms, which you ultimately develop."

The problem with this virus is that you don't know which phase you're in until it's too late.

I agree that until one develos symptoms one doesn’t know if they were asymptomatic or presymptomatic. But one doesn’t transition from asymptomatic to presymptomatic to symptomatic. If one does develop symptoms, then one knows that before the symptoms they were presymptomatic.

Seems as though this is first Approved prophylaxis nasal spray to be made available for now In the UK but could possibly be available in US soon I would think given the relationships used in the study(?) With University of Virginia and Israel . Other similar products in the pipeline here in US but don't think they are in Human testing phase as this was. Nomovid (parnell pharmaceuticals) has a meeting with FDA this month for an EUA on their product afaik

https://hubpublishing.co.uk/taffix-t...-during-covid/

https://www.taffixprotect.co.uk/

Not a virologist, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

My understanding is that asymptomatic typically refers to individuals whose viral load is too small to induce any symptoms. These individuals do not appear to be a high risk of spread

Since symptoms develop as a response to viral load, and there is a lag in that response, presymptomatic applies to those individuals whose viral load is high and increasing, and therefore a risk of spreading the disease, but not yet exhibiting the immunological response that we associate with symptoms.

So, because (again in my non-clinical opinion) it is possible to transition with low viral load, no symptoms to high viral load, no symptoms, I think it is fair to say that you can transition from asympttomatic to presymptomoatic.

The distinction does not appear to be a useful one to make, though, with current testing being binary.

Pretty much this. But especially the bolded, you can only distinguish between the 2 in hindsight once someone becomes symptomatic, you can estimate which days they were 1 vs the other. You can't take 2 people and say 1 is presently asymptomatic and 1 is presently presymptomatic. You can't tell the difference until after the fact.

I play only famous rooms and I almost never play high limits. But when I twice a week play mid-level limits I always see the same people 6-7 of people at the table are the players I played before.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...had-live-virus

A JAMA Internal Medicine research letter today finds that 18% of recovered COVID-19 patients test positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, but only 3% (1 of 32) carry replicating virus in their respiratory tract.

Guilt by Association logical fallacy. Alex Jones is on the internet. The CDC is on the internet. Therefore, we should ignore the CDC. That's your logic. It is false.

No. Your claim is the fallacy. Alex Jones chose to be on net. So did CDC. Two hours dependent choices. Who Rogan chose is not independent of another choice of HIS. He obviously felt both were worthy of putts by on his show. Why he decided this we don’t know but it is as not two completely independent decisions.

Yikes, no that is not what the association fallacy is. Go back and read what that comment is in response to.

I never said this. I posted one simple, factual sentence. You are the one that extrapolated something with false logic from it...

A few things have happened that makes the above even funnier than it was at the time:

1. Yesterday, Alex Berenson was banned from Twitter for spreading misinformation about Covid and the vaccines.
2. Berenson began posting from the @GenRescue account, which belongs to an anti-vax organization that mainly acts as a platform for Jenny McCarthy’s anti-vax agenda, to which Berenson had inexplicable access.
3. The @GenRescue account was banned for misinformation, account sharing, and ban circumvention.

But even more funny, the iwannapoker account that has posted in this thread to defend Pork Fri Rize is the alt account of Pork Fri Rize.