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Old 07-06-2018, 06:51 PM   #1
Utah_CUtiger
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Forgetting about the oversize chip call rule

So a situation happened to me during the Giant at the WSOP and I am wondering how I should have proceeded.

I have K/3 in the BB and I defend to a raiser and a caller. The flop is k/10/3 so I have two pair. The 1st guy bets 1,000 (this is in one of the 1st levels) and the 2nd guy calls the 1,000. I think a moment and decide to raise to 5,000 and throw out a single 5,000 chip without saying anything. I don't realize immediately what this means and look at my opponents then realize when the dealer says that I have a few 1,000 chips so just throw a 1,000 chip in. So I unintentionally made the call with the oversize chip rule. I didn't say anything and acted like it was a simple mistake of grabbing the wrong chip by putting in a 1,000 and tried not to betray that I meant to raise.

What should I have done though? What would have happened if I had said "I meant that as a raise"? I feel like that would have just messed up my strategy for the hand and potentially screwed it up or I even could have been accused of an angle shoot.

The turn ended up being another K and the river a 10 and the 1st opponent had k/10, so I ended up getting lucky with a chop and it was really no issue in the end and I never said afterwards that I had meant to raise.
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Old 07-06-2018, 07:05 PM   #2
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Re: Forgetting about the oversize chip call rule

There shouldn't be anything that you could say to change it to a raise. You should simply accept that you made en error, and played on like you did.
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Old 07-06-2018, 07:08 PM   #3
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Re: Forgetting about the oversize chip call rule

Well, no matter what you intended, you know that the oversize chip was just a call, so sure, play along with it however you want. Saying you meant it as a raise is just going to delay the hand going forward in exactly the same way, only now your opponents have extra knowledge about your hand. You'd essentially be angling yourself.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:59 PM   #4
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Re: Forgetting about the oversize chip call rule

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What would have happened if I had said "I meant that as a raise"?
It still would have been a call. You should get in the habit of verbalizing your bets rather than throwing chips around willy nilly.
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Old 07-07-2018, 01:56 AM   #5
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Re: Forgetting about the oversize chip call rule

Not saying anything is correct, no point in protesting now.

Also fold pre.
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Old 07-08-2018, 08:49 AM   #6
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Re: Forgetting about the oversize chip call rule

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"I meant that as a raise"
You meant to raise, but you didn't raise.
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Old 07-09-2018, 10:58 AM   #7
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Re: Forgetting about the oversize chip call rule

Good thing it wasn't a raise for you. K-10 may have come back over the top to get either you or the other caller out, especially if there was a flush draw out there. You might fold thinking he has a set of 10s and not even get your chop.

Did you really not realize that your action was a call? Or did you have a momentary brain-fart?
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