Haven't played much live, except for the past year or so. In this hand a dealer mistake cost me a decent pot.

This is a 4/8 LHE game.

I am OTB with JTo several limpers, I limp. Flop comes J84 r, checks to me I bet out. 4 callers.

Turn pairs the 8, checks to me, as I am reaching for chips the dealer slaps down the river card, a 6.

I say something, dealer calls the floor over.


Floor has her shuffle the 6 back in the deck and has me complete the turn action, I bet. 2 callers.

River is a 7, check, player to my right now bets. I call, call.

Bettor shows his pocket 7s, other players shows 99.

Dealers error cost me 11 BB pot. She is a terrible dealer, makes mistakes all the time. The bigger games must hate her.

Nobody said anything, so assuming this is correct ruling?

What other outcome would you have preferred? Letting you bet and the 6 staying out there?

There are 2 options:
1. You don't say anything, the river card stays and action is on the first player.
2. You speak up to protect your action. In that case we need a new river.

Some people will argue that you're required to speak up.

As madlex says, that is standard when there is a premature turn or river.

The only thing wrong (and it's super minor, possibly even something you've just retold wrong) is that they shouldn't bother to reshuffle the 6 in until after the turn action completes, as there's a chance you'll bet and everyone else will fold and it won't even be needed.

Some days the new card hurts you, some days it helps. If the original turn had been a 7 and the other player was planning to CR you but now it comes a 6 after the reshuffle, he would be the one here writing this post and complaining that the dealer screwed him.

Sucks, but mistakes happen and this is the fairest way to proceed for everyone.

If the dealer is habitually bad, the room has to do something about it, quite outside of this one event happening to you.

Thanks, I appreciate the confirmation.

Today same dealer correctly called a kill pot hand after player had won 2 and won enough, but then dealt it out when killer only put out 1/2 bet as his BB and there was a raise called and placed out before I realized she screwed it up. I said something and she said the next hand would be a kill.

Am I a Karen?

No.

You have every right to speak up and protect your action in the first hand.

Kill hand, if nobody else seems to care I also wouldn't care. But that's up to you.

Nobody was wrong in the kill hand. You were right to speak up, and the dealer was right that there was already too much action before the mistake was realized.

Pretty straight spot ..
1) Complete Turn action to see if a River is needed
2) Shuffle (perhaps even wash) '6' back into stub .. cut the deck .. and ..
3) Put out 'new' River .. NO BURN

Players are required to speak up .. and IMO especially when there's a weak Dealer in the box to insure the game goes as intended. You'd hope that the Dealer would learn from their mistakes .. eventually .. as well keep the Players from getting upset that a hand wasn't legit by the time the chips get pushed. GL

Mostly agree, but IMO the dealer is wrong for letting it become an issue. Yes, she identified it as a kill hand. But the SB either put out just a SB or hadn't yet put out anything at all. The dealer shouldn't give that player a second card until they put out (or at least acknowledge) a kill amount. (Same procedure should be applied for BBs. Generally less an issue for a normal SB, because if that player really doesn't want to play their SB you can kill their hand and give them a missed SB button instead without causing too much fuss.)

Once it is an issue, however, I agree the dealer handled it right. You play the hand out and the player posts a kill the next hand instead. This is SOP for a missed/forgotten kill, or post where you can no longer just kill the hand for reasons.