1. At this casino we often offer smaller denomination chips to people who don’t have them in these cases. All I did was offer. The dealer took it upon herself to make change. You people keep missing this point.
2. Dealers here routinely ask players if they want higher denomination chips. They prefer to do it that way as opposed to doing it from their rack. It’s probably more convenient for them to maintain their rack, I don’t know.

Thank you, Mr. Suit. You’re a wise man and probably a great poker player. Thanks.

I did read your OP. You are a jerk and you were wrong to try to break up that player's chip. You should not have offered change to break up the green chip. If he is calling a bet of 15 then let the dealer take the change out of the pot and pull the green chip into the pot. Some players want that chip back if they win the pot. You insulting the player and saying he wasn't going to win anyway is real low class of you no matter how mad this guy got. You were wrong in the first place and then instead of listening to how you were wrong you insult the other player and tell him he won't win anyway?

It was bad etiquette on your part to offer to change the chip. It was low class of you to say the guy wasn't going to win the pot anyway.

I have played in some casino's like which you refer.
most times the dealer will pick up the chip and ask if anyone wants to break it.
this is only done if there is not enough in the pot to do so.
you are correct for whatever house reason they don't want them in their tray.

my only point is if there is enough in the pot to break it then you are just slowing the game by asking for it.
and for whatever reason the V got insulted no reason to TAP THE GLASS

I don’t recall if there was enough to make change. If I recall correctly there was not, the pot was being overbet.

I don’t think offering to change the chip is a problem, though I wouldn’t do it mid hand, but whatever. You obviously escalated though, which is on you.

That said, one of my pet peeves is the self-appointed etiquette guy who claims any interaction that annoyed him personally is some kind of egregious breach of the Sacred Poker Code and is up there with angle shooting and slow rolling. It’s just an excuse that ill tempered regs use to ***** people out.

I guess everyone is wrong here but I don’t feel like you instigated this really, thigh you did escalate. You’d be best served just staying out of hands as much as possible though, keep the action moving.

I couldn’t disagree more.

Out of curiousity, why did you post here? You have basically dismissed every opinion that doesn't validate your action. It would have been easier on everyone if you had just stared in the mirror and said 'You are always right, people just don't understand you'.

I feel like at least once a month we have a thread like this where somebody asks a question, doesn’t like the answers and gets extremely defensive as a result.

FWIW, if the guy who claimed bad etiquette would have posted here, the answers probably would have been pretty similar: Just chill, it’s not a biggie, stay friendly and keep the game moving.

I don't understand everyone's hatred of making change to help out. I do this all the time and normally get a thank you from the dealers.

(I do agree you have to do this right, and if you can't then don't touch it)

OP, I really can't understand why you thought it was a good idea to "keep it real" and insult the villain. Especially since it sounds like he's donating to the table. Are you trying to give him an excuse to leave? If so, then well done.

There are casinos in which the dealer must be involved when players want to exchange chips.

That seems extreme. I've never been to one of these.

Strange.

I stopped doing this a while ago. For some players its no big deal. But some players collect greens and want to compete for the green once its in the pot. Also, I think its better etiquette not to distract a player while he is in a hand. However, if you are also in the hand then it may be a way to rile up a superstitious player.

There are times when I am playing that I want to change out my reds for greens because I am planning to go play in a tournament and I don't want to go to the cage to cash out. But I realized that trying to change out chips that are in play is sometimes disruptive and can cause hard feelings. I try to avoid doing that (OP on the other hand seems to thrive on the controversy) so I no longer offer to change out greens in the middle of a hand (especially if the pot itself can make change). As it gets closer to my leaving time I do offer reds for either greens, blacks, or hundred dollar bills in between hands.

The exception for me is if its a guy on my immediate right or left who either is a buddy or has been changing out chips himself.

Personally, if its me, I don't care one way or the other. I am not superstitious that way. But if its somebody who is trying to collect greens, I might say no just to piss them off. Then they start playing for the greens and make it personal. A weakness to be sure and one that can be exploited.

you MUST BE THE BIGGEST FISH in the room and all the regs will scold any dealer that pisses you off.

I don't think offering change is a breach in etiquette. I think trying to engage someone in a hand in any kind of conversation, especially after they just made aggressive action, is a no-no.

If it is change for the blinds, no big deal. For a player that just bet, don't interact with him at all until after the hand.

All you don't touch my chips Nazis must play in terribly strict casinos.

When I play in time raked games I normally grab my sides time rake, stack it and tell the dealer to save time.

I do this sometimes in tournaments when antes are in involved. Still get thank yous.

I've done it in casinos where it's my first time and my first hand there. Still get thank yous. The knowledge of how big a fish I am has clearly been spread far and wide.

Use common sense when doing it. It's not the end of the world. It's a huge leap it call out of line.

Mod note: quit it with the personal attacks and trolling. Any further issues will result in temp bans. Thanks.

I'm a dealer and what you did is fine, I see it all the time. I think the dealer is in the wrong for not following the action and instead worrying about making change. You two are grown-ups, you can handle a simple $25 transaction without the dealer butting her head in. Once action is complete, either there are 3 red chips or 1 green chip in front of the guy, either way I already know he called 15. It's only a problem if you are slow and action is complete and I'm waiting for two buffoons fiddling around making change when I could do it in a split second.

First of all I can tell that you are probably one the best dealers who has ever dealt a hand of cards. Your wisdom just shines through in this post. Secondly, I should note that there was a player who was deciding on his hand when the dealer made the change. So it’s not like she was slowing down the action to do it so she was waiting for another player to act.

Don't offer to change chips in the middle of a hand.

Don't post questions you don't want answers to.

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When someone is in a hand, don't interact with them. Don't ask them if they want change. Don't talk to them at all. This is basic poker etiquette. A lot of us assumed that in a thread titled 'etiquette question', that the original poster would actually be interested in etiquette.

It is basic forum etiquette that when you ask a question, you do it for the purpose of getting information, not because you want everyone to agree how right you are. You breached etiquette, multiple people here have told you exactly how. Instead of saying 'Gee, I never knew that. i will take note of that next time' you instead argue with them.