Never saw this before.

Player calls an all-in on flop.

They show. Player A has a set, B has top pair and two runner-runner draws.

Dealer shoves pot to A and picks up cards.

B says wait, you didn't finish dealing.

Urp.

Floor comes over and determines all the cards involved. Then he runs them through equity calculator and determines that B had 7% equity, so he has A pay him his equity in the pot, which was $10.

The floorman came up with this on the fly. I thought it was brilliant.

Dealer needs retraining on procedures in addition to his brain dart.

Kill losers, slide board, push pot, scoop winner into board, finally muck board into stub and then muck.

There is no way that floor should have to run equity Calc. Board and stub should be reconstruct able.

Agree with Dinesh. Even if the players can't reconstruct the board/hands, the cameras should. The stub should be intact enough for the next four cards.

Highly disagree with using the calculator but it's creative I guess.

lol have you ever asked for cameras? at least when i have its taken 15mins+ its hellish. and they still were unable to get any information from the cameras.

the equity calc is incredibly smart in this spot, especially assuming the cards/stub are not retrievable. and best of all its quick and doesnt waste time.

This was the El Dorado in Shreveport. Training and supervision are definitely lax, the floorman was at sea.

I have no idea if the stub could have been distinguished from the muck once this aged and clumsy dealer collected cards. They might even have been in the shuffler by that time.

I'm glad we didn't have to wait on camera data.

If the "aged and clumsy dealer" could manage to get the pot pushed and the deck squared and in the shuffler before anyone called out that he forgot to put out the rest of the board, then a lot of the blame ends up with the players too. Hell, the green button was pushed, too late to fix the last hand.

you never have to "wait on camera data". The pot is held in the well and the next hand is dealt after the phone call is made. Once they conclude (or not) who won the hand, the pot is then released to the winner.

However, this situation is a lot different. The players and dealer should be able to reconstruct the flop, then hopefully the stub is identified. If it's not, I would rather see the remaining cards shuffled up rather than say "you're equity is 8% so take 8% of the pot". He had a chance (although small) of drawing out and winning the whole pot. IMO it's a very unorthodox ruling and I disagree with it, but yes, the floor's ruling is final.

You got incredibly lucky if player B was OK with the ruling. As soon as somebody told me that they’ll run an equity calculator to calculate my share of the pot, I ask them if we can capture the situation on camera to make things easier for the gaming commission. I doubt that’s allowed in any regulated card room in the US?

Lol, horrific

Holy ****! This is a new one. Floor is an idiot. Dealer has terrible technique. Players in this hand are terrible for allowing the dealer to muck everything before stopping him. Terrible ruling.

I actually had a similar thing happen to me. I was in seat 1 and was all in preflop against seat2. Back then, in this room you had to turn your cards face up even in a cash game. So we both turn over our cards ( my KK his AA) the dealer looks and grabs my cards and starts to place them in the muck. I instinctively grab his wrist to stop him from mucking my cards. He says "never touch a dealer!" And I say I normally wouldnt but I had to stop you from mucking my cards. You havent put out the flop yet.

He says "I dont care, you cant touch a dealer". I said call the floor if you are that upset about it. The floor came, and the first words out of his mouth were "did your cards hit the muck?" And I said no, because I grabbed his wrist to stop him. The floor says "you cant touch a dealer" and then "you have to protect your hand". I said that's what I was doing by grabbing his wrist.

Then the floor says "well your hand isnt necessarily dead if they hit the muck". And I answered "then why was that the very first thing you asked about if it didnt matter". I could see we were stuck in a loop of " you must protect your hand--i protected it by stopping him from mucking--but you cant touch the dealer---etc.

So eventually he just had the dealer run out the board, and as much as I would like to say I sucked out, I didnt. But until I read this OP I thought my incident was the only time a dealer had forgotten to put out a flop. I guess no matter how strange something is, it's happened before.

i few weeks ago i saw someone who had top pair nut flush draw on the flop against a queen high flush draw on a 10 high board

the players turn their hands over, the queen high fd guy says "**** i'm dead" when he can still hit a queen , running trips and maybe a backdoor straight.

the dealer drops the deck and goes to push the pot.

fortunately the stub was kept intact and she was able to properly run out the cards when everyone started yelling the hand isn't over.

lol maybe if he mucked your KK hand it would just be dead hand for both players, cuz its 100% impossible, besides grabbing the dealer, to stop the dealer from killing your hand. its not like you would EVER in a million years have to pay if THEY mucked your KK and wouldnt let you play it. id walk right out w/ my chips if they tried to make me pay. hundreds of casinos out there.

if you dont let go of your cards, likely wont need to physically touch the dealer.

It is a bit nitty to criticize someone for not protecting properly tabled cards.

first thing i was taught when i started playing live was to not let go of your cards so crazy, illogical things like having to grab the dealer didnt happen. if thats nitty so be it.