In most cases yes ... but when you accuse someone of excessive tanking don't you want to know they were really tanking excessively 'without cause'?

When you nab someone for shop lifting don't you still check their pockets?

Obviously a Player really shouldn't have a 'deep' decision every hand .. and there's always a chance that the Player actually does have a hand the one hand a Floor checks once action is complete.

There's nothing wrong IMO to set aside a Player's holding and then look at it after the hand before deciding to put them on a 10 second v 30 second clock. It could go a long way in defusing tension at the table as well. It eliminate all verbal retorts that a Player can use ... "But I had pocket 6s!!"

I totally agree with your premise ... but this is an outlier that I can get my hands around. GL

Unfortunately, you have zero chance to know if someone is tanking “without cause”. Especially in a live setting where the majority of players has no idea about ICM. Player A might tank with 88 even though he immediately decided to eventually fold. In exactly the same spot, player B has a real decision with 76 because he thinks that might be a good spot for a shove. Player C folds AQ because they ‘don’t feel like gambling’ while player D runs the numbers to see if he got the right price to call K5.

The TD is a hero.

I think your underestimating how much that would affect the current hand of the floor comes over and looks and the hand and then decides if or how long of a clock to give him. It’s a terrible idea and your shoplifting analogy isn’t even close to comparable.

No. He lost the right to tank at all.

He was found to be tanking, with a short stack, just to tank.
He was warned, he got the clock called, he was told not to do it again.

I still say wait and penalize him after the hand.

I'm actually confused by the people saying the penalty of nuking his hand was excessive. Generally, the thought has been

"Wait til after the hand, he plays live. Then 1 round penalty. Don't kill his hand for any reason you can think of"

So, TD comes over, says exactly that. So the dude thinks about it for the next....person to fall out of tournament.

I mean...you have to be thinking at some point they nuke his hand. If you are thinking at some point they will, then the TD obviously reached that point.

The TD just walked over and killed it. There should have been a clock. Could have been 10 seconds, but a clock warning nonetheless.

That's not what he's saying at all. He's saying based on his holding, then he can decide on 10 vs 30 second immediate clocks going forward after this hand completes.

But how is the floor supposed to determine if somebody is fake tanking or not? Maybe I'm sitting there with 85o and have a serious decision to call all-in because busting now means I'll catch the 11PM showtime at the movie theatre next door? Or my ride is going to leave in 10 minutes and I have to decide if J2 is good enough or I should wait til the next hand for my shot to double up or bust?

Put the guy on a 10 second clock no matter his cards. Basing the floor decision on hand strength is ridiculous.

As an aside, I have watched the EPT and other events where a 30 second clock gets introduced into play at some point in the tournament. And players are given a certain number of time extension chits to use if they need more than 30 seconds. Once the chits are gone, no more time extensions.

And while generally this is a good thing, I have seen players using the clock to time how long it takes them to act, often prolonging an action that should have taken a second. I know players do this sometimes without a clock to make all their decisions disguised, but I just see no reason to do it when I know instantly I am going to fold. So, having a clock can backfire when they are supposed to speed up play.

But, some people are going to tank as the bubble gets closer and for pay jumps when still multi-tabled. Like someone said, I do not mind when a normally quick player tanks a while when he clearly has a tough decision to make, it is the guys who tank every hand that are annoying. I have no problem with the decision made in this example.