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03-18-2010 , 04:02 PM
It really isn't a small bet in a small pot for the average 1/2 stack. It was a $60 pot that was about to become a $70 pot and turn actions are quickly hitting commitment threshold.


It was a fairly small bet for that pot size though which could take a little more thinking for some people or with some hands, especially with 4 people seeing the flop.
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03-18-2010 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CardSharpCook
i think the dealer's point is that it is a small bet in a small pot and these tiny decision shouldn't require much thought and you're being rude to the table by taking so long.
And the dealer should not be articulating that point.
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03-18-2010 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MidnightToker
And from that point on, the dealer would not see any tip from me, and if he ever said anything about it or made a face, I would tell him "It's just $1" and see how he likes them apples.
+1
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03-18-2010 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CardSharpCook
i think the dealer's point is that it is a small bet in a small pot and these tiny decision shouldn't require much thought and you're being rude to the table by taking so long.
$10 might be a lot for some players at a $1/$2 NL game.

Some players don't arbitrarily throw money around and they might do their best to make the correct decision on every action.

Dealers are customer relations professionals. By acting in the manner that they did, the dealer was rude.
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03-18-2010 , 05:40 PM
It's just $10 man.
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03-18-2010 , 05:45 PM
last comment was very out of line, you shouldve made a bigger deal about it and let him know he should shut it
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03-18-2010 , 06:56 PM
Only read OP.

"Time."
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03-18-2010 , 07:17 PM
The "only" part was uncalled for. Making sure that you're aware it's on you is fine, and desirable.
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03-18-2010 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by esch
Sissy is probably not the right word. But something along the lines of making a bigger deal out of this than it should be would be about right.

Dealer did have a point about it being $10, but since even $2 in NL can lead to massive all-ins, you have your right to occasionally contemplate a decision with what seemed like a reasonable time frame.

However, at 1/2 there is a bit a leeway one should expect when it comes to the casualness of the game. The dealer was dancing around those boundaries and even though he was making comments he technically shouldn't have, it's, for lack of a better word, standard stuff at LL holdem.

Learn to deal with that stuff in a positive manner and you'll avoid a lot of incidental tilting.
^^this^^
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03-18-2010 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by keith-atl
Just curious did you acknowledge the dealer at all after the first time he said $10, nothing wrong in telling you the bet. Honestly if you are just staring there with a blank stare and not cutting out chips or doing anything, then I see nothing wrong after 5 sec's him repeating the bet again.
He didn't just repeat the bet again. He said "only $10, come on." It would have been appropriate for him to wait some more time and say "Sir its $10" or something like that. He has no business telling a player to make a decision, that's up to the other players at the table.

It's not just $10, is it? No decision in NL is just the bet you're looking at, its whatever you might be thinking about raising it to.
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03-18-2010 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
And the dealer should not be articulating that point.
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Originally Posted by Quadstriker
Only read OP.

"Time."
OP shouldn't have to make the entire table aware that he's taking longer than usual to think about a hand because the dealer doesn't get that he's not supposed to rush players.
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03-18-2010 , 09:45 PM
Dealer is way out of line with his 'only 10 dollar comment'. How do you think the better feels if he was bluffing and the dealer is rushing him to call? I know someone else already called, but he could possibly bluff that guy out, having a 3rd opponent come in is not what he is looking for. Dealer no longer deserves tips. Also, 10$ is between 50-100% of most winning players hourly at 1/2, according to the most recent 2p2 thread on live winrates. It isn't nothing.
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03-18-2010 , 09:48 PM
Tell him/her you will gladly call to move things along with THEIR ten (or one thousand btw, the amount of the call is none of their effing business) otherwise please give me a moment to make my decision.
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03-18-2010 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Taso
OP shouldn't have to make the entire table aware that he's taking longer than usual to think about a hand because the dealer doesn't get that he's not supposed to rush players.
OP absolutely SHOULD do the minimum required to assist the flow of the game and protect his hand.
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03-18-2010 , 09:56 PM
Was I the only one who read the title and pictured some dude standing there in a casino and a dealer running at him to tackle him?
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03-18-2010 , 09:59 PM
Dealer's 2nd comment during the hand, and his commentary after the hand, were stupid and you should do something like calling the floor.

Tough to analyze whether the dealer was correct with the first comment because "10 seconds" is from the OP's POV, in my opinion this usually actually means about a minute and a half.
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03-18-2010 , 10:06 PM
lol how does he even get to say "come on only $10" that's like 2 hours of his pay (- tip)

Guy is clearly out of line, and while I would've simply told him "let me think" I would've never tipped him
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03-18-2010 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Dealer's 2nd comment during the hand, and his commentary after the hand, were stupid and you should do something like calling the floor.

Tough to analyze whether the dealer was correct with the first comment because "10 seconds" is from the OP's POV, in my opinion this usually actually means about a minute and a half.
Calling the floor every time you're slightly offended at the poker table is a great way to win friends.

"Floor! Yea, I was taking a long time on a turn decision and the dealer said to me, 'its only $10.' YOU BELIEVE THAT? I want him reprimanded."
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03-19-2010 , 12:30 AM
Dealer was out of line as described in the OP.

However...

Countless times I have respected a players privacy while he calculates outs and odds concerning the bet he is facing only to have them announce they thought they had already folded.
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03-19-2010 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wendell x
Was I the only one who read the title and pictured some dude standing there in a casino and a dealer running at him to tackle him?
Same here and I post in this forum a lot.
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03-19-2010 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pfapfap
OP absolutely SHOULD do the minimum required to assist the flow of the game and protect his hand.
since when is the minimum required announcing that you are thinking every time its your turn and you take less than 10 seconds?
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03-19-2010 , 09:56 AM
The dealer should have said "come on Chris Ferguson it is your turn to act, you are getting 4 to 1, it isn't that F-in hard. I hate dealing the 1/2 game, all you f-in want to bees that watch too much TV poker." Then you should complain but your 5 seconds was probably more like 30 and it was most likely on every hand.

Fold to a $10 Donk bet, now that is funny.
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03-19-2010 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wendell x
Was I the only one who read the title and pictured some dude standing there in a casino and a dealer running at him to tackle him?
This. Bum rush, FTW!
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03-19-2010 , 12:25 PM
Obviously the dealer was out of line.

But seriously, hurry up.

I know in writing it doesn't seem like much (10 seconds, that is), but at a 1/2 table, with 70 in the pot and you've got to call 10... 1 mississippi, 2 mississippi, 3 mississippi, 4 mississippi, and so on. Unless you are very new to poker, 10 seconds is a long time to sit there thinking. It might be a sign that you aren't really clearly thinking through things ahead of time. At that very moment isn't really the right time to be thinking through from scratch how you are going to behave in this kind of situation!

Anyway, what you specifically did that one time is not a big deal, but there are problem "thinkers" who just waste everyone's time for no good reason, so instead of getting 25 or 30 hands an hour, the table crawls down to 15 to 20. Or whatever. Just don't be that person!
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03-19-2010 , 02:40 PM
pfap hit it. I always say "please give me a minute" before I act. It takes the urgency out and lets people know you are on point.
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