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Dealer showing mucked cards to people outside of the hand? Dealer showing mucked cards to people outside of the hand?

08-07-2018 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ATrainBoston
AVLuke, you are very new and I want to give you some advice: come to this casino poker forum every day and read all the posts. You will eventually learn about all the crazy stuff that can happen playing live poker, and you’ll learn what to do and how to handle
Yourself in unusual situations that involve the rules. This will make you much more comfortable at the table and make you a better player.
Kid, this is by far the best advice in the thread. I would add (possibly with some controversy) that you should take rules posts more seriously from respected dealers and floors who post here. (Suit, PSandman, many others that you will come to recognize.)

However, take with a grain of salt the employee sympathy that OCCASIONALLY gets posted by other casino employees, and only worry 100% about what's in your own best interest. If you let something slide, do it because you don't want to alienate the people who pay your bills, or because you don't want to be treated poorly by managers in the future over something small if this is the only room you can play in.

If you're being wronged by a dealer, don't worry about the bigger picture or his side of the story, or maybe if he's having a bad day, etc. etc., like you'll see here sometimes. That's between him and his employer. Simply call the floor and speak calmly and rationally. That .0001% of equity he may have lost you wasn't his to give away, and that was an egregious offense. Good luck, except when you're in a hand with me.
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08-07-2018 , 02:38 PM
I certainly have not had the extensive live casino experiences that many others who post here have had. That said , I have never , ever seen anything like this take place before. Nor , until now, ever heard of it. This seems like drunk , self dealt , home game behavior or maybe regs in some sleezy underground room run by Silvio Dante. Speak up politely next time if it happens again.

Maybe not to Silvio actually , on second thought.
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08-07-2018 , 02:58 PM
Yeah, this is pretty crazy to think a dealer would show mucked hands to a railbird. I would have asked him what the hell he is doing and ask for the floor to tell him what is going on. Ridiculous.
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08-07-2018 , 09:53 PM
If a player invokes IWTSTH, should that be a floor call?
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08-07-2018 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Suit
Yeah, this is pretty crazy to think a dealer would show mucked hands to a railbird.
I would have asked him what the hell he is doing and ask for the floor to tell him what is going on. Ridiculous.
Yeah no need to be gentle with the dealer on this.

"HEY WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?"

He gives me any lip I'm calling the floor myself.
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08-08-2018 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Yeah no need to be gentle with the dealer on this.

"HEY WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?"

He gives me any lip I'm calling the floor myself.
+1

The odds are good that this isn't the first time the dealer has done this. It shouldn't be a surprise to the floor to be called.
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08-08-2018 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Yeah no need to be gentle with the dealer on this.

"HEY WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?"

He gives me any lip I'm calling the floor myself.
I normally believe in being polite to dealers, but in this case, I would agree with the above. This behavior is way, way out of bounds.
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08-11-2018 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FearfulFerret
If a player invokes IWTSTH, should that be a floor call?
It was a folded hand, not a mucked called hand but even more so it was not a player but a rail bird.
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08-11-2018 , 11:28 PM
You might not want to play theirs anymore. Not only was the dealer way, way out of line, the other players did not say anything. As a reg, I try hard to protect the integrity of the game, especially when it comes to new players who may not have an understanding of live poker. If the culture at this room is this dishonest that 6 or 7 other players would sit quietly while the dealer was exposing cards, then this is not a room I would trust
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08-13-2018 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FearfulFerret
If a player invokes IWTSTH, should that be a floor call?
Depends on the rooms rules. If the rule is always or never this should not require a floor call unless an argument ensues. But some rooms have a rule where the player asking to see the cards is asked for a reason they want to see and this should be a floor call.
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08-13-2018 , 11:13 AM
I would have absolutely said something, but tried not to lose my cool about it. That would have been difficult especially after the 2nd time.

I probably wouldn't be concerned that I was the new guy in a room full of regs because cash or bust, that would likely be the last time I played there.
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