Arguing about this a lot lately, please chime in:
I got people telling me that NO discards should be mucked until everyone has completed their draw that round. These folks have it in their minds that "you can't put the discards from this round into the muck, because we might need to shuffle the muck, and we can't shuffle in the discards from this round."
EXAMPLE: Players A, B, and C draw. These folks are telling me not to muck A's and B's discards, in case I need to shuffle the stub to complete C's draw. They maintain that under no circumstances should C be able to draw a card that was discarded by A or B this round.
This logic completely eludes me: How is drawing from the current discards any different from drawing from the prior discards??? And not mucking all discards immediately leads to cards all over the felt that the dealer can't possibly protect, nor even keep track of.
To be clear, I understand that if we need to shuffle for C, we don't shuffle in C's discards from this round--we don't want him drawing the K
on the same round he discarded the K
. I'm thinking these folks who disagree with me read a rule that C's current discards should not be shuffled in, and they mistranslated this rule into "no one's current discards should be shuffled in."
I dealt a lot of TD about 8-10 years ago, haven't seen it since. My experince was "push and pull"--push their draw cards to them, and in the same motion, pull their discards directly into the muck. Maybe it's changed in that time...but I doubt it.
Experienced dealers, please respond. Everyone else, I beg you: don't chime in with what you THINK it should be, or what you've read on the subject. This one time, I'd like to restrict the replies to folks who KNOW it, who've LIVED it.