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05-10-2022 , 02:59 PM

cantmoveUP

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 310

Watching a poker vlog on youtube when this hand came up. Hero bets river, while villain is thinking dealer is lifting all the remaining cards in the deck few times and might be exposing them to the villain facing the bet. This goes on at 20:17min in the video. Am i over reacting or something fishy might be happening here?

https://youtu.be/GU33lgqHq80

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05-10-2022 , 03:48 PM

jmmj05

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 542

It's the muck, not the deck (which is irrelevant in this situation). Something fishy could be going on, but more likely it's just a bored, careless dealer playing with the cards. The camera picks up the bottom card of the deck when the cut card is removed, more evidence that the dealer is probably a little too careless here.

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05-10-2022 , 05:38 PM

Gzesh

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Originally Posted by cantmoveUP

I agree the dealer was being sloppy, but you are over reacting. How is the villain seeing cards, look where he is sitting.

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05-10-2022 , 05:42 PM

Bobo Fett

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Originally Posted by jmmj05

Something fishy could be going on, but more likely it's just a bored, careless dealer playing with the cards.

This.

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Originally Posted by Gzesh

I agree the dealer was being sloppy, but you are over reacting. How is the villain seeing cards, look where he is sitting.

And this.

Also, I think you have the wrong forum. If it's even worthy of a thread, it probably should be here:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ardroom-poker/

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05-10-2022 , 06:26 PM

whosnext

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I moved this thread from NVG to CCP.

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05-10-2022 , 06:33 PM

Koko the munkey

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It's almost certainly not malicious, but if I were at the table I would ask the dealer to stop playing with the muck and I would direct all subsequent feedback to the floor if it didn't change.

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05-10-2022 , 07:21 PM

answer20

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It def looks bad IMO .. The V is in Seat 9 and could possibly see some of the fanned cards once the Dealer turns them square to the betting line.

It's certainly not in the Dealer handbook and should be corrected. Any unnecessary touching of cards or chips can lead to unwanted spots. GL

PS .. I took some French, so it was pretty cool to try and understand what we being said.

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05-10-2022 , 10:21 PM

Reducto

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,773

Most likely an unprofessional, fidgety dealer rather than anything nefarious. I saw a colleague do something similar once and he had no idea he was exposing anything.

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05-10-2022 , 10:38 PM

SpewingIsMyMove

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Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 3,529

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Originally Posted by jmmj05

How is viewing the muck irrelevant? If I can remove hands from villains range by seeing the muck, it affects my decisions significantly

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05-11-2022 , 12:05 AM

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albedoa

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I think he means that the distinction is irrelevant in this case. It's careless either way.

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05-11-2022 , 02:28 AM

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Reducto

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,773

Irrelevant because the board is out. Exposing the stub with cards to come is worse. Exposing the muck is still pretty bad, though.

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05-11-2022 , 08:38 AM

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SpewingIsMyMove

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Originally Posted by albedoa

I think he means that the distinction is irrelevant in this case. It's careless either way.

On reread, I think you are right.

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05-15-2022 , 01:39 AM

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DisRuptive1

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Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 964

Holy cow, that dealer is horrible. I watched just 5 minutes of the dealers that came before that one and they are all bad, bumping the deck, rolling the deck, and pulling in the burns early.

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05-25-2022 , 02:58 AM

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KYRounder

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Good Fold

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